The Effects of Stopping Birth Control

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  1. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    Ladies,

    The Jan 2006 issue of the Journal of Sexual Medicine is out! This issue contains findings on OC's possibly permanent effects on libido:

    Journal of Sexual Medicine
    Vol. 3 Issue 1 Page 104 January 2006
    "Impact of Oral Contraceptives on Sex Hormone-Binding Globulin and Androgen Levels: A Retrospective Study in Women with Sexual Dysfunction"
    Claudia Panzer MD, Sarah Wise MS, Gemma Fantini MD, Dongwoo Kang MD, Ricardo Munarriz MD, Andre Guay MDFACPFACE, Irwin Goldstein MD
    <a href="http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2005.00198.x" target="_blank">http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2005.00198.x</a>

    It is available online but for a price. I'm going to see if my library has it.... in the mean time... a commentary on Dr. Panzer et al's findings...

    <a href="http://www.medpagetoday.com/tbprint.cfm?tbid=2423," target="_blank">http://www.medpagetoday.com/tbprint.cfm?tbid=2423,</a> "Both the acute and lasting effects of oral contraceptive use on sex hormone-binding globulin levels, which binds to testosterone, suggests that women exposed to birth control pills may have reduced bioavailable testosterone and therefore be at risk for sexual problems, the authors said. The study did not measure whether the effects are ultimately reversible.... The investigators suggested that prolonged exposure to the synthetic estrogens found in oral contraceptives may trigger permanent changes in gene expression that leads to the elevated levels of sex hormone-binding globulin."

    Would love to hear your feedback, ladies...)

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    Need post-pill relief!!

    I stopped taking Yasmin after my last pill pack was completed and am looking for some advice on how to deal with the withdrawl symptoms. This is the third week that I've been off of the pill. Here is what I've experienced:

    1. In Week 1, I immediately experienced headaches but no other noticeable side affects.
    2. In Week 2, the first couple of days I still had headaches but then started feeling extremely bloated, anxious, foggy-headed, fatigued (but slept well), depressed and crampy. This is also when I stumbled upon this website in desperate search of information and felt so relieved to know I wasn't alone.
    3. In Week 3 (this week), I'm still extremely bloated, crampy, still fatigued but having trouble sleeping, very irritated at little things, can't concentrate, can't make decisions and am starting to wonder if I've gained fat weight and am not just bloated.

    I'm also hypothyroid and while on Yasmin for 2 1/2 years, experienced about 10 yeast infections. I'd love to hear any advice you all have and will continue to read the threads to find helpful suggestions from people that are suffering with the same types of symptoms.)

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    Well, i have had very similar withdrawl symptoms. I stopped the nuva ring dec. 27. had my "fake" period and headaches. The second week had "lightheadedness" and headaches. Also, very emotional...almost panicky. Mow my third week i'm taking b-complex and vitamin E. I feel great!!!! I'm gonna keeptaking them for about another week to take care of these symptoms until some time passes and my next period comes....which is "i don't know when." I suggest just taking vitamins- B6 is the most important....and b-complex contains alot of it! and Vitamin E is great for your body, blood, and cardiovascular system. My doc told me to continue doing this. She also added that bc IS NOW KNOW FOR IT'S LINK IN CAUSING BREAST CANCER! along with all these other lovely things it's doing to our body! I say stop the bc! I am! )

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    This is my third week post-pill and my light-headedness is not as bad but I am very crampy and my back hurt so bad for a few days! And my nipples are still soooo sore. I am really glad I found this. Now I know I am not alone with the way I feel.)

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    I stopped taking Yasmin about 6 months ago because my husband and I decided that we wanted to have a baby. I was on the pill for about 4 years. My first period after the pill came when it should have but was very light and last about 10 days. My next period came within two weeks and since I've had three cycles that have lasted about 45 days. I am worried that there is something wrong with me. Is this common after stopping birth control? I have heard that women who have cycles that are extremely long often are not ovulating. Please someone let me know if something similar has happened to them.)

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    From what I'm hearing tan, it is normal. I haven't had a period in 3 months. I don't even know if I'm ovulating. Hang in there; I'm trying to. We want a child as well, and it's pretty tough when you aren't ovulating.)

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    Hey guys...
    I got off bc not long ago. I had my first period on the normal 3 days i got it when i was on bc fri, sat & sun). This is my second period off of bc and it is pretty on time however wednesday i had some brownish spotting..thursday i got my period the whole day (one day early) and today i have it as well but normally im really heavy for one day and i havent been terrible heavy..more just myperiod ya know. I was scared earlier that i was pregnant (ive never had sex but theres been close calls..i dont know) and i know you can still get your period if you are right? Is implantation bleeding really light spots or just a normal period for a short time. I dont think mine will last more then 3 days thats forsure. Should i be worried?)

     
  2. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    Dear all, thanks for sharing you experiences. I stumbled upon this site as I have also recently stopped using the pill and am trying to figure out what is normal. I have been on the pill for the past 5 years and was on the depo shot for 9 months before that. I am now 24 and have been on birth control since I was 18. I have been off for 2 weeks now and am on an emotional rollercoaster with cramps, mood swings, headaches and cravings. It is comforting to know that I am not alone and appreciate the experiences/tips you all have shared.)

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    Hey Farrah,

    I wouldn't be that worried--it takes time for things to even out in your body after coming off of BCP. My periods became lighter after coming off too, even though I had been a really heavy bleeder before. Now that I'm on the IUD they're lighter but clottier.

    How close is close with the sex thing? I mean, ejaculate close to your vagina? Unless that happened, I wouldn't be too worried--and even if it did, the chance is still pretty small that you're pregnant. The fact that you're getting your period (no matter how abnormal it is!) says something. However, if you're really worried, keep an eye on how you're feeling (tiredness, breast soreness, nausea etc.) and if you notice any major changes or are just worried then take a pregnancy test )

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    Tan-
    I am so happy to read your post! I stopped the pill a few months ago, had two periods about 30 days apart... then the next was 45 days! I am again approaching the 45 day mark and am eagerly awaiting my period. I feel so cranky and bloated - my only comfort is you aren't supposed to have PMS when you're preggers, and I most definitely have it right now... I hope that is true!
    I don't want to spend the $$ on a test just yet. Yikes.)

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    I'm SO confused on what's going on with my body. I have been with my BF for 3 1/2 years and on Birth Control for what would have been almost 2 years. Before i met my BF i was a virgin..got on the birth control almost a year later. I never had a problem with my cycle..EVER! I got my period when i was 13yrs old, and since then it was coming about every 29 days..which is normal.

    I got off the birth control in August, when i had my appendix removed, because i didn't like the effects of the birth control and we were planning on trying to have a baby.

    My period came normally..when i took the NUVARING out..then the next month it was pretty normal, but a little longer than usual, i believe my cycle went up to 31 days..which was FINE. I heard that it would take a while for my system to get back to *normal* but i never knew it would be this long. We were trying and trying, mid september-october, my period was around every 32-33 days. I had my period on October 29th, didn't get it again until DECEMBER 9th! That was like a 41 day cycle or something like that. I was going insane. I took 2 pregnancy tests..went to the doctors, got bloodwork and everything came back negative. I finally got it..and was really upset..but i figured hey i would've gotten REALLY lucky. Now..when i got it, it was REALLY heavy..the whole time..for like a week. Now..im back in the same boat. It's now January 19th and i STILL haven't gotten my period! What is going on?! I took a test this morning..and it came back negative(well not pregnant) Im eating SO much..cause im STARVING all the time, going to the bathroom a lot more, feeling tired and achy.
    I wish i knew what was going on!)

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    Blossom25 - I have had the same problem. I went off Ortho Evra in April, had a couple of normal to light periods, had nothing for three months, had a light period then i have had a heavy, clotting period for about a month now. I made a doctor's appt but I was wondering if anyone had the same problems! Anyone else? What did their dr say?
    Thanks! )

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    Hey all, I have been off of the pill for 2 months now, after taking it for amost 8 years. I got my first period right on time, but now I am 2 days late so far on getting my 2nd period. When I was on the pill I would get my period on the Tuesday or Wednesday after starting the sugar pills. And since I was on the pill since I was 15, I don't really know if I am supposed to be 'regular' or not. I have noticed a severe increase in my cramping and bloating, as if I am suposed to get my period soon. My sex drive has sky rocketed, which I am sure my b/f doesn't mind. And I feel as if I am never full and just want to eat and eat and eat. My emotions are out of control, and I feel so bad for my boyfriend, after dating him for almost 6 years and being on the pill the whole time, he has never seen me like this and I feel so so so bad for him. I have probably gained about 10 lbs in the last 4 weeks and I have so much water retention.......I thought it was gonna be the opposite when I went off. I am so glad to see that I am not crazy and this is a common thing to happen.)

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    I got off the birth control in August, when i had my appendix removed, because i didn't like the effects of the birth control and we were planning on trying to have a baby.

    My period came normally..when i took the NUVARING out..then the next month it was pretty normal, but a little longer than usual, i believe my cycle went up to 31 days..which was FINE. I heard that it would take a while for my system to get back to *normal* but i never knew it would be this long. We were trying and trying, mid september-october, my period was around every 32-33 days. I had my period on October 29th, didn't get it again until DECEMBER 9th! That was like a 41 day cycle or something like that. I was going insane. I took 2 pregnancy tests..went to the doctors, got bloodwork and everything came back negative. I finally got it..and was really upset..but i figured hey i would've gotten REALLY lucky. Now..when i got it, it was REALLY heavy..the whole time..for like a week. Now..im back in the same boat. It's now January 19th and i STILL haven't gotten my period! What is going on?! I took a test this morning..and it came back negative(well not pregnant) Im eating SO much..cause im STARVING all the time, going to the bathroom a lot more, feeling tired and achy.
    I wish i knew what was going on! -----------------------------------
    Your problems are reminding me so much of my friend that was on the shot for 9 years. She has been off of it for 3 years and still CAN'T get pregnant......All of your preiod problems sound exactly the same. And I really think the only thing to do is wait for your body to adjust, it can take along time, and I am starting to realize that b/c is not the greatest thing in the world for people that want to have kids in the future.)
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  3. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    Roshi-

    Any luck? I like you have been waiting since Dec. 5th and still nothing... I really hope I have not done permanent damage. I was on the pill for 9 years until recently. 2 periods about 32 days apart... and now the last one was 42 and this one is still counting... no end in sight.)

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    Quote:Originally posted by Isilwen:
    Hello everyone,
    I am 21 years old and have been on the Ortho Evra patch for about 2 1/2 years. While on the patch I became more nervous about things than normal, easily aggitated and extremely emotional, and gained alot of weight (approx. 35lbs). I also have been getting heart palpatations since goin on the patch, which is apparently due to a murmur. Not sure if the BC had anything to do with kicking that up or not.
    In light of recent news about it I decided to quit using the patch. Since coming off the patch I have been experiencing lots of weepy/angry/depressed sessions *lol* and Anxiety attacks. No troubles with my period ,oddly enough. I settled right into my normal cycle even though I quit the patch in the middle of the month. I've been off it for about 2 months now and I personally do not see myself taking any hormone type BC again. Hi, I'm new here. Just wanted to share that I was on "The Patch" for about a year and developed heart palpitations as well. Never had any sign of any type of heart problems before being on the patch. I've been on BCPs for 7 years now due to Endometriosis. I've been going to an acupuncturist since November and have decided to quit all hormonal birth control. I was never convinced about its safety in the first place, but saw no alternative at the time for the Endo pain. I'm trying to see if there's any reason for me to make a Dr's appointment just to discuss getting off the BCPs. I'm sure they will spend most of the time trying to convince me to stay on them and they probably won't have 1/2 the info you ladies have shared here about withdrawal symptoms. But if anyone has a convincing reason why I might want to make a Dr's appointment to stop BCPs, please share. I'm supposed to start my new pack Thursday the 26th. Thanks!)

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    Thursday the 26th... that's today! Personally, I think you can just not start a new pack and see how it goes. The Endo might make it less of a simple decision than it is for some of us. But lots of women stop and start the pill throughout their lives. What's the worst that happens?... You don't start a new pack, you have side effects or endo pain, you make a doctor appt to figure out a different pill and start it later. I was on the pill for 13 straight years with no break. It baffles me now that I never thought to just go off them when I wasn't in need of birth control. I did meet with the doc to discuss options. She wrote me a Rx for what may (MAY) have been a better option for me. I showed her the info about centchroman, just to educate her (she was intrigued, but couldn't legally prescribe or recommend). I filled the new Rx but I didn't start it, starting Saheli instead.)

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    I can relate to what your going through. I have been on orth-cyclen for almost 8 years and just assumed everything i was going through was just me. Lately it has gotten worse my legs ache and my muscles hurt i am 29 and i too feel like im old. Im tired all the time i just want to sleep. I have mood swings also and just dont feel like doing anything.
    I go to the doctor in a week but i doubt anything will come of it cause i have went before with similiar symptoms.
    So u are not alone. Im not sure what i can do except go off the pill. which i am seriously considering. anyway thanks for the post it makes people like me and those going through the same thing realize we are not alone.)

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    Yeah, I decided to do just that...did not refill my prescription. I'll see how it goes. I'll called my Dr's office just to see what the nurse would say (whether I needed an appointment or if I could just quit...she said just quit if I don't want to discuss an alternate method of birth control, which is what I figured.) I'm sure my acupuncturist will have additional herbs/exercises that I can do to cope. Wish me luck!)

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    Good luck!!!! Your body will be going through some changes so just be aware of that. But, with a forum like this I am sure you already know that)

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  4. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    Hi nic,

    Im sorry to hear you are feeling so rubbish at the moment! You are not a lunatic at all, there are so many people who have gone through the same stuff (unfortuntely, but reassuring to know!)
    A few years ago i took microgynon and had bad side effects and then marvelon, i the same pills as you and had depression, i was crying for no reason at all, i didnt want to socialise and put on a lot of weight. I was on the pills for around a year like you, and although i cant remember how long it took for me to get better i did! i lost the weight and was no longer depressed.
    i made the mistake however of trying femodene a couple of years later and was in the same boat. i stuck with the pill for around 18 months n see if the side effects would disappear. They didnt, so i stopped the pill at the end of november, (thinking i too would be back to normal within weeks, as there is no mention of side effects from stopping the pill)
    since stopping i have had severe anxiety, been spotty and had greasy hair, lost my apetite etc... However i do feel better than i did. the first couple of weeks were horrible. Although i still feel down, i have to remember that i did get better after taking microgynon and marvelon so i think it just takes a bit of time for your body to reajust.
    There are a few threads on this site about vitamins etc you can take.
    i started taking b-complex vitamins as the pill depletes this from your body, and i do believe it has helped. ive also taken evening primrose oil, and just bought some vitex (agnes castus)so we will see if that helps.
    Ive also been taking st johns wart. i knew if i went to the drs with my problems they would describe me anti depressents and didnt really want to go on them. Maybe it would be worth trying st johns wart (it has been proven to help with depression) and has fewer side effects than normal antiderpessents. (you may just want to check with your gp though, as it can affect other medicines and im not sure if you can just stop taking anti-depressents).
    I think it varies on each individual how long it takes to return to normal. for some people its straight away and others it takes a little longer.
    Hang in there though. You obviously have a loving fiancee who will support you through this and im sure you will feel better soon.)

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    Hi guys,
    ignore the last post, i was reading the wrong page and it was from someone who posted in june!!
    I think i am cracking up now!:)
    Hopefully nic is feeling much better now!)

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    LOL, I am sure that Nic is feeling better now, I sure hope she is feeling better now, it has been 7 months, good god!! )

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    Still having problems post pill. I went off back in August. Had the initial withdrawal bleed and then had to have my next period brought on with Provera in October. Nothing since except brown spotting 18 days ago and now I am cramping and have brown spotting for past 5 days. I am really freaked out.)

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    hey been off the pill for 5 months after having abnormaal bleeding throughout cycle, my cycles are now 6 weeks long and am stil having abnormal brown discharge just before period begins, has anyone else had this?)

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    I don't know what to tell you, I have been off the pill going on my 3rd month and both periods have been on time and normal, only about 4 days long. Sorry that I can't help. I do know of people that are having the same problem and if you go back in the forum, maybe to page 1 and read through it all you will find someone that has given advice already. Good Luck)

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    Hey Shorty - I just got my period yesterday!! Finally!! After almost 6 months!!! I had the brown spotting for about 4 days before I finally got a real period. I read that the brown spotting if only 1-2 days before is normal. If it lasts longer than that it is what's called a luteal phase defect - basically it means you are low in progesterone and your uterine lining starts to break down a couple days before you get your full-blown period. Not a problem unless you are trying to conceive. If you are trying for a baby, see your doctor to have your progesterone levels tested because low progesterone causes the lining to break down too early and could cause early miscarriages. Hope this helps )

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    shorty_steab -
    I have been off 5 months and am having 6 week cycles as well! so strange... I am nervous about my fertility now... The first two were normal, 32 days or so, now it is a mess though.
    Hopefully this will all straighten out. I've heard it can take 6-12 months after stopping the pill! Keep me posted.)

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    Well I finally did it. I stopped taking bc. After reading posts on this site and talking with my husband I decided to quit. My effects weren't too bad on the pill until about the last 5 months I was taking it. My hair and skin got oily and I started feeling irritable and anxious. I went for my annual exam and told my gyn that I wanted to stop taking bc. She told me that I don't need a break from bc I just need to try a new one. She then offered to give me Yasmin and went on and on about how it is the best pill on the market. When I told her that two of my best friends had horrible experiences with Yasmin and that I wasn't interested she informed me that I must be mistaken. Needless to say I didn't find my gyn very supportive.

    However, I am excited to be taking care of my body and making a choice that I know is good for me. I took my last pill on January 21, 2006. Now I am taking Vitamin B-6, Vitex, and a multi. I had my withdraw period and now I am just trucking along. I have felt pretty good so far. Today has been the first day I feel a bit off. I have a bit of nausea, feel flushed, and have a headache. But from what I have read that is a bit normal.

    I am so sxcited to see what my body is going to do. I'm actually happily awaiting the start of my period. That has never happened before. Thanks to all of the women that have shared their experiences on this site. I have really benefited from your vulnerability.)

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    Wow - Saturday 1/21/06 is the same day I stopped too! It'll be interesting to see how we both do....

    I was on the pill for a whole 16 years - I'm 31 now. I stopped for one year though (7 years ago) when I was living overseas - and I didn't get a period the WHOLE YEAR. When I returned, my doctor did some tests & an ultrasound and everything was normal, so gave me something to induce a period (which worked) and then I just started the pill back up. So I still don't know how long it would have taken my body to go back to normal on its own...

    But I have a lot of hope that this time my body will adjust much more quickly - becuase I'm much healthier now than I was then. I used to smoke, not exercise, not be very in tune with my body...

    I'm now very health-conscious, eat healthy, exercise regularly, am much more in tune with my body. So I'm hoping this goes smoothly...

    My first week I had the usual mild pill-period... and then this week I've had very uncomfortable headache and nausea, which is totally new for me. I'm guessing it must be from the withdrawal of hormones that I was giving my body everyday for so many years...??? I hope it passes quickly! I've also been irritable and haven't slept as well, and my appetite has decreased. These things are all not-typical for me...

    So I'm kind of freaked out - I hope these uncomfortable things will go away and my body will adjust quickly... But I'm also excited and empowered that I'm finally doing this. Can't wait til my body is back to "doing its own thing"! )
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  5. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    Everything you have said seems to be average for a lot of women. I have felt the same things and I have been off the pill starting my 3rd month, after being on it for almost 8 years, and I am only 23!!! I loved being off of it at first but my emotions and hormones are so off the wall they are driving ME crazy! I feel bad for my b/f. Good luck and I hop all goes well)

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    I'm new to this site but i joined now becuase you all have really helped me. I have been on birth control for about 8months now, i started on ortho-tri cyclin low and it wasnt so bad until after about 3 months i because very depressed and had an extreme lack of interest in everything. I spoke with my doctor and she switched me to Mircette, immediately i felt better and things were almost normal then about 2months into it, i completly lost my sex drive and want from anyone. I was very tired, going to be at 9, and very emotional and moody. Every little thing would piss me off. After reading everyone's comments i have decided i am going to stop, i have to finish the pack off and im not too excited about that but i am ready to be myself again. You all are very helpful in makin me feel like i will be ok, THank you!!!!!!!)

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    I had the worst headache of my life yesterday, which was day 12 post-pill, and I now think it was a migraine. (I've never had one before this.) I actually had to come home from work becuase of my headache and nausea. I was reading on the web about how a sudden change in your hormones (e.g. the drop in estrogen & progesterone which I was giving my body for years thru the pill) can cause a "menstrual migraine" or "hormone headache". It was awful - I woke up with it and it lasted until about 6:00pm. I still feel it a little bit, but it's a lot better... anyway, hope that does NOT come back! I'm hoping it started to go away becuase my body is now starting to make its own hormones again and is correcting the imbalance from the withdrawal??? We'll see....)

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    Roshi, are you still feeling the mood swings in the 3rd month post-pill? What about headache and nausea? No sign of the period yet?
    Good luck to you too!!! )

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    Hey there.....I got my period last Thursday which was about on time, give or take a couple days. It only lasted til Sunday morning and then it was gone. I had the worst cramps through it. I am still riding the emotional roller coaster, it sucks!! I have gained about 5-8 lbs also, but I think it is water retention, so I am hoping it goes away soon.)
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  6. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    Wow, I am brand new here and so glad I found this thread! I was beginning to think I was going crazy or have ADHD or something...

    A quick contraceptive history: on bcp since the age of 18--no obvious problems; off bcp at age 28, tried to conceive for one year; after birth of daughter almost 3 years ago, tried one form of bcp after another: started the mini-pill and increased dosage to 1/35/28s, then Ovcom(??) due to breakthrough bleeding problems; finally used the NuvaRing to have constant dose of hormones to stop breakthrough bleeding--total loss of sex drive. Tired of hormonal contraception and went off just 2-3 weeks ago, just decided to use spermicides for contraception for a while. I'm 33.

    OK, so I have been feeling totally "off" since I quit using the NuvaRing. I have a total lack of mental focus, I cannot concentrate on much of anything, my mind runs at 100 mph, and as a result I've been experiencing increasing anxiety. I felt like this a few years ago to the point of having a panic attack, but those feelings went away over time. So I've finally put two and two together and think that must have happened also when I went of the bcp to try and conceive. The other symptoms I've had recently are a yeast infection, which I haven't had in many, many, years, and the other: the only way I can think to describe it is feeling like my uterus and/or cervix are heavier or are further down than usual.

    I'm hoping things will return to normal soon. I feel like I'm going nuts.

    Anyone with similar symptoms after quitting hormonal contraceptives? Also, have any of you consulted your doctors and what have they said?

    Thanks, Ladies!)

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    Thanks, Ladies! Everything that you have said are the same things that I have been feeling. I am starting my 3rd month off..........I have not talked to my dr since i found this site and it made me realize that everything is obviously normal. I suppose it would have been better to contact my dr first so I knew what to expect. Oh well, you live and learn)

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    Fortuna, have a look thru the other posts on here and you will see that this is very common. Good luck.

    Lou
    xxx
    P.S. It just shows the damage that synthetic hormones can do!)

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    Fortuna ñ my symptoms have been very similar. I took my last active pill on January 14th, got my ìperiodî as usual and have not started a new pack. I guess that means I've been pill free for 14 days. I have been on the pill for 13 years (Yasmin the last 3), and since my husband and I are going to try to conceive later this year, I thought it was time I went off.

    My moods and anxiety haven't been too bad (but I'm wasn't moody on the pill ñ or have I been on it so long, I just don't even know what my normal would be???), but I have been a bit weepy. Feeling like crying for no reason, and the site of a baby just makes me melt (always has a little bit, but not like this).

    My physical symptoms have been a lot worse. Last week I started having dizzy spells and blurred vision, but didn't think much of it. Then, this past Monday, I started having the ìheavy, lower cervixî feeling Fortuna described (good description ñ I had a hard time trying to explain it to my husband), watery ìleakingî, heart palpitations, strange feeling down the back of my left leg and foot, having to pee all the time, and cramping off and on. Yesterday the cramping was constant and horrible and I felt like my cervix was going to drop out of my body. By the time I got home yesterday I was in tears and went straight to bed, and I'm not usually like that. Finally this morning the horrible cramps are going away and I'm just a little sore. I'm still having the heart palpitations and now my breasts are tender. Will this ever end???

    I'm also wondering if I'm ovulating or it is simply symptoms from withdrawal. The cramping started around the time that I ìshouldî ovulate if I was on a regular 28 day cycle. Any thoughts???)

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    From what my friend said (who is trying to concieve for 3 years and has done TONS of research) you do get some mild cramping while you are ovulating. I would go buy one of those at home ovulation kits and just get familiar with it, and see if that tells you that you are ovulating when you are having those cramps.)

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    Is sounds like you are ovualting. The watery discharge you mentioned is a sure sign.)

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    That's a good point. Is there a test that shows if you ARE ovulating, or do they just tell you when you SHOULD ovulate? I've been on the pill for so long, this is all kind of foreign to me.)

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    well 'technically' you should ovulate 14 days after the first day of your period, give or take a couple days. But I am pretty sure the tests tell you when you are, and I know that you can also take your temp everday and chart it and I think your temp drops when you ovulate, there are websites out there that can chart the info for you just by entering some data each day, from your cervix mucus to cramps. Just take a look at some websites and I am sure you can find info on both things. Let me know what you find out, please)

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    Hey KKM, my friend said this "they tell you when you have an LH surge, which happens 1-3 days before you actually ovulate. so it is when you are going to ovulate. but the result line has to be the same shade or darker than the test line to be positive.... it's kinda confusing" and she said to go to <a href="http://www.peeonastick.com" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.peeonastick.com" target="_blank">http://www.peeonastick.com</a></a> it tells you everything about all the tests and what not. Good luck!!)

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    actually, technically you ovulate 14 days BEFORE your period. the time from day one of period to ovulation varies, but supposedly the time from ovulation to period is 14 days for "normal" people.

    I tend to notice the twinge and cervical mucous around day 10 and 11. and I always (normally) bleed 14 days from there.)
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  7. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    Today is 2 weeks since I stopped the pill and I'm feeling a lot more "normal" again, after a ROUGH WEEK last week. Headache is mostly gone and I'm not feeling irritable like I was (it was BAD). What a relief to be feeling more like myself again... hope those symptoms don't come back though! Good luck everyone...)

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    All I can say is go to your doctor right away!!!Get checked out and maybe even some hormone tests if they find it necassary. I encourage you to read the topic I posted on "birth control and bipolar". I don't know if you've read it or not. But in it I mention the fact that I don't remember having mood swings before trying estostep. Ive lost several years of my life to these mood swings that are SUPPOSEDLY "bi polar". I've just now started ortho lo and I'm not sure how its going to turn out, but I believe that for the first time in years I might be on track to fixing the problem. I wish you the best of luck and I definitely can sympathize with your situation. Dont wait years like I did before investigating it any futher. Good luck and stay strong!!! )

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    If anyone is looking at this and feeling terrified of coming off the pill, a word of reassurance...

    I was on microgynon for nearly 7 years from when I was 16. I go on with it fairly well, PMS disappeared, my periods were regular for the first time in my life, far lighter, and generally easier to manage. I noticed no major physical side effects, i did have some weight gain, although whether this was down to the pill, or due to the 'contentment factor' of being happy in a relationship I couldn't say. However I found that my sex drive had dwindled down to virtually nothing.

    For a long time i assumed this was because the initial excitement of the relationship had worn off, or that my weight gain had affected my self confidence. However last year I lost nearly all of the weight for my wedding (it has stayed off too!), and my libido didn't improve. I could think of nothing it could be and just assumed it was me. About 2 months ago I came off the pill, as my husband and i are now trying for a baby (no luck yet, so I can't comment on the fertility points raised on here, but I have only been trying 6 weeks, and had one period so i' not too worried yet!). I feel like a different person. I have more energy and my sex drive (much to my long suffering husbands delight) has gone through the roof! I've gone from initiating sex about once every couple of months, to thinking about it all the time, and finding that keeping it to every other day (doctors recommendation for getting pregnant) is the problem! And this isn't just because I wanted a baby - when I first came off the pill we were using condoms just to give ourselves a final bit of time to think about our decision. Some people may have horrible side-effects both on and coming off the pill - but not everyone.

    All I would say is it does do the job for most people, but don't underestimate the effects swallowing high levels of hormones may have on your body.)

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    Roshi, I'm feeling much better this week. I'm not feeling any of the symptoms I had last week. Unfortunately, I have no idea if I ovulated or not. From what I understand from you, you have to take the ovulation test BEFORE you think you're going to ovulate. We're not trying to get pregnant yet, so it doesn't really matter, but I am so anxious to see if my body is going to get into a normal cycle. I'm scared to death to think that it may be months before I know what my body going to do. Now, there's nothing I can do but wait for my period.

    One a positive note, I feel great this week, and even though I was feeling too bad to do anything about it last week, I was feeling very sexual. Once I was feeling better, my husband even noticed that I reacted different physically when we had sex this weekend. I never thought that my lack of interest had anything to do with the pill, but now I'm really beginning to wonder. I would have gone off the pill a long time ago if I knew then what I know now!)

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    jlw23 - Did you have side effects when you came off? If so, how long did those last, and how long until your sex drive kicked in?)

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    I love this site, I dont feel like a total basket case anymore! I started birth control about 2 months ago because I was getting married. I had horrible side effects, nausea, depression, anxiety, and just an overall lazy, achy feeling. I stopped taking it just a few days ago due to being fed up with the side effects. My only problem now, is that I wake up having a sick feeling in my stomach that doesnt go away until the afternoon, and then at night i usually have a little anxiety episode feeling as though I will never be happy again! Also right when I stopped I think i started my period when I just ended a week and a half ago. I would be able to deal with the symtoms but its freaking me out because Im getting married this saturday the 11th, and really dont want to feel sick and be on my period....any suggestions would be greatly appreciated )

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    Congrats on the wedding! Just under 5 months till mine! Because you stopped mid-pack (I get the impression that's what you did?), you might be having more withdrawl symptoms than you would have if you'd stopped at the end of a pack. It will be fine, but that's why you had an early period. Your body is having another "pill period" that you typically get during placebo weeks. To your body, this is just another placebo week, and it may be just a little "confused" by the sudden change in hormones. Hopefully the period will stop before Saturday, and your tummy will feel better. One thing is for sure, stressing about them won't help. Since you weren't on the pill that long, hopefully your body will bounce back quickly. Try to think positive (you have so much to be excited about!) and just treat the symptoms the best you can (a little Pepto, careful food choices, for example). For mood issues, I found that taking a Vitamin B supplement helped me right away, within days I felt calmer. That might help with the anxiety. A friend of mine absolutely swears by cod liver oil supplements when she is feeling PMS-moody, and says they help her right away. Not sure what else to tell you, hon, except Happy Wedding! Focus on the positive.)

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    LaurenNichole - I'm not surprised that you got your period even though you just had it. It sounds like you stopped mid-pack, and getting a period is just normal as part of the withdrawl. I'd be willing to bet it will go away in a day or two. As much stress as your under with planning a wedding on top of dealing with your pills, it's no surprise you have an upset stomach. I know it's hard to beleive, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Hang in there.)

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    LaurenNichole, congratulation on your wedding, I hope you both have a lovely day.

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    Thank U all for ur replys, it always helps to get some reasurance. I had more thing to add to my post. The Stomach pain that I feel is more like an extreme hunger pain. I dont know if that is related to the birth control, or maybe is caused by something else...?)

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    I took my last active pill 25 days ago. Last week was rough, but I'm feeling so much better this week. The only symptoms I'm still haveing are the heart palpitations. My left leg is also aching, but I don't know if that's related or not. The palpitations are not as often, but I still don't like that feeling. Anyone else have those linger even after the other withdrawal symptoms were gone? How long did they last?

    On another note, I know that you're supposed to get your period 14 days after ovulation, but when do you start counting? I don't know if I was ovulating last week, or if the symptoms were just from withdrawal, but regardless it lasted for several days, so I don't know which day to calculate from.)

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    kkm, you should read "Taking Charge of Your Fertility," and start charting your cycles. This book describes what happens in our bodies throughout our cycles, and it is so interesting. I just got a copy from the library and am reading it.

    I just stopped the pill a little over two weeks ago, and emotionally, I feel a LOT better. I've been having weird headaches though, with sensitivity to light and moving my eyes. I have been charting everything, which is really enlightening. I feel a lot more in control of my body. I have not ovulated yet, and I should be able to tell when I do, based on bb temp. and cervical fluid/cervix observations. This way, I can also see how my body is responding to coming off the pill.)

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    Megan, fwiw, you may not ovulate the first month or so after coming off the pill. I finally got a period 27 days after my withdrawl bleed. And, though I normally bleed for 5 days, this time it was spotting for 3 and now bleeding for 8...it takes a while for things to even out. (And, fwiw, this long period is a sure sign ovulation is kerflooey for me...but then, she removed my mirena WHILE I was ovulating, and I got a period two days later...))

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    Ok, now I'm confused. I thought you would only get a period after you stopped the pill (besides the initial withdrawal bleed) if you DID ovulate.)

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    Not necessarily.
    You CAN still bleed.

    <a href="http://www.babyhopes.com/articles/anovulation.html" target="_blank">http://www.babyhopes.com/articles/anovulation.html</a>)

     
  8. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    Hopefully this will all straighten out. I've heard it can take 6-12 months after stopping the pill! Keep me posted. hey thanks for replying still having same trouble am worrying to if this means am going to have problems with my fertility from now on, a little scared. not sure whether to go to the doctors to see if their are tests to see if am ovulating and if i can take anything to help. having real probs with acne all over my bacck and neck, wwish i had never gone on the pill! keep me posted 2! x)

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    I finished my pill about a month and 1/2 ago, I had my withdrawel bleed as normal for 7 days which was very heavy compared to usual, exactly 28 days after that I started my proper period but it was quite light and only lasted 4 or 5 days is this normal??

    Also I have been experiencing horrible waves of nausea at night time, I had to go to bed at 10pm last night because I felt so sick.

    Any suggestions anyone???)

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    Sounds like it's still off for all of us. I had the withdrawl bleed, then bled from ovulation through period. sigh. I'm seeing a homeopathic OB/GYN next week.)

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    WHEN WILL MY PERIOD COME DOWN????? WHAT IS THE AVERAGE TIME????...1 MONTH?? 2 MONTHS?? 6 MONTHS???....I was ON the "PILL" for 20 YEARS STRAIGHT..my doc took me off on Dec 19....my last period was Dec 6th...I have not had a period since and today is Feb 14th. I had 2 pregnancy test at he doctors office both negative so I know I am not pregnant. I went off the pill on Dec 19...did spot very lightly about 3 days later for just a couple of days...but absoultely nothing since...
    It seems way too long....when can I expect the day to come? Even though I am using other types of B/C everyday is emotional havoc...my doctor didnt give me a straight answer...)

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    I saw my naturopathic doctor yesterday and told her about coming off the pill last month, and the recurrent UTIs I had, plus anxiety/depression last fall... She was very helpful.

    Since coming off the pill, I have been charting my cycle (taking temp every morning, and checking cervical fluid) and it is so interesting! She looked over my chart and agreed with me that my temp is all over the place and has no apparent pattern yet... but I have noticed the changes in cervical fluid. Also, I have been somewhat red and itchy down there since stopping the pill and she said that is completely normal, as my body is adjusting to the change in hormones, and it throws the vagina's pH off, and to give it time. In the mean time, she put me on probiotics and some other things to introduce the good bacteria back into my system.

    Lady41xxoo, I suggest you start charting, so as to observe what your body is doing- charting can also show you if you ovulate, if you are pregnant, etc... read my above post... Otherwise, I say just relax, and let your body do what it needs to in order to get back in sync. It will certainly take time! Good luck!)

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    It took me three months in order to get my first real period, but I did ovulate. I charted my temps and could see where it finally straightened out. I'm on cycle day 18 and am still waiting to ovulate but that's not that big a deal since I had 32 day cycles (five years ago, before bc) I was never on the 28 day cycle until bc. I thought it would never come also. In the Take Charge of Your Fertility book it mentions that young and/or thin people have a tendancy for it to take awhile, because cholesterol is what initiates the production of hormones. I'm 5'2, 100 lbs, so that made sense.
    So perhaps your body size may have a part in how long it takes to get your period on track.)

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  9. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    Hey girls,
    I just wanted to let you all know the bad experiences I've had coming off the pill to give some hope to any of you who may think your body/mind are going crazy and aren't sure if the bcp is to blame!
    My story started when I started taking the bcp for ovarian cysts about 8 years ago (Im 22 now). I had been off and on (mostly on) for the first 6 years and consistently on for the last 2. Those last two years I had been taking ortho tri cyclen and then switched to a generic (tri-previfem) for the last few months. During those months on the generic..weird things would happen occasionly. Sometimes I would wake up with an awful feeling of tingling/shaking and awful nausea that would pass after a couple of minutes. I didn't know it then but now I realize that its my version of a panic attack. Looking back on it I remember having MUCH worse physical symptoms of nervousness for those months on the generic than I usually do.

    Anyways, I didnt think too much of it and eventually stopped taking the pill altogether because I was living abroad in the Middle East and couldn't get the prescription refilled. Ohhh man, let me tell you...all hell broke loose. I started off having a terrible time with sleep. First I could get 5 hours a night, then 3 and then eventually I wouldnt sleep at all and could only sleep by alternating tylenol PM, nyquil, and even valium (gasp!) which the doc's there gave me because they didnt prescribe sleep aids there! It was hellish and went on for over a month. I also developed the WORST anxiety I had ever had. More times that not I would wake up with those awful feelings I mentioned above and eventually I would start getting those feelings throughout the day. My heart would start pounding like crazy and I would feel dizzy and shaky and nauseous. It was truly unbearable and I would just break down in tears from not knowing what was going on with my body. I was soooo sad and just plain exhausted from all of the anxiety/depression that it was hard to have a normal day without laying down all the time. At my lowest, I had lost about 15-20 pounds from loss of appetite and nausea from the anxiety
    The docs there kept telling me that the pill probably didn't have anything to do with this and just thought I was having a hard time adjusting to being in another country. Well Ive traveled before and I know my body and I KNEW that it would nt act like this in the States or in Timbuktu for that matter.
    I eventually had to take a medical leave from my job there and went back to the states where my doc (a former ob/gyn) told me that the going off the pill was def. to blame and that she hears stories like this quite often! I wound up going back on the pill (Ive been back on for about 2 months now)and Im doing much better. But, its sad to know that Ill prob go through it again if I ever want to come off the pill later. My doc said that for someone who has been on the pill for so long like me, it might take up to a year to feel normal again. (cry) But, at least now I can be prepared and can know how to stop the crazy symptoms before they start.
    So, to any of you who think youre going crazy...youre not. According to my doc, going off the pill puts you into a 'menopause like state' so any of the symptoms associated with menopause are fair game. I found it helpful to check out this site: <a href="http://www.power-surge.com" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.power-surge.com" target="_blank">http://www.power-surge.com</a></a> which is similar to this site except about menopause. Here you can read about other people's symptoms to give you some peace of mind during your undoubtedly trying time!
    Good luck to all and know you're not crazy!)

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    see they dont tell you about all these side effects when u first start taking the pill, am trying herbal remedies now, agnus cactus and dong quai see if that can regulate me as doctors are no help, jus want my mind put at ease because i no symptoms of polycystic ovary syndrome are irregular periods and acne and i have both now. aarrrrgh still waiting the cycle is already at 5 weeks, i am going to monitor my temp next month to see if ovulation is taking place i have also bought some ovualtion strips and a fertility test to check teh FSH.)

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    Hi!

    I stopped my pill in September, after having trouble with my libido for so many years, and after finding this forum I had withdrawal period in October and very light bleeding in November. Then nothing till yesterday, when my period came back I am soooo happy. I already got very worried, but it just takes time to restart the system, and I even was on a very light pill (not even available in the States).

    Bottomline: It was a great decision to come of the pill. I feel so much more natural and have lots of sex.... )

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    MeganM,

    I didn't really have any side effects coming off. I felt a bit light-headed mid-way through my cycle, and had a few palpitations, but nothing major at all. My sex drive kicked back in within about 2 weeks of taking the last pill. Still going on...!)

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    please look at <a href="http://www.wellnessresources.com" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.wellnessresources.com" target="_blank">http://www.wellnessresources.com</a></a>

    i would say, get off the antidepressants too, then get on some hormonal supplements from this website. i've had hormonal issues since i got my period, have been off and on the pill and zoloft and this is the best remedy i've found. i hope it helps, i wish everyone would check it out and give it a try!

    good luck!

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    Fantastic! After reading lots of posts from other girls I don't feel like such a lunatic. I really need some advice on where to go from here though...

    A couple of months ago I went to the docs very concerned that I had something seriously wrong with me. My body was aching constantly, my joints hurt my muscles hurt the worst thing was what happened to my hands and arms, it would start like pins and needles then progress to numbness and weakness. I was 28 years old feeling like I was 88. I suffered from bouts of shaking and tremors, irregular heartbeat, cold sweats and fearsome mood swings. I was also constantly tired with no energy and no motivation to do anything.I work from home and would often end up sleeping all day!

    I decided to get a check up when I started considering that my quality of life was so ruined by feeling ill everyday that I would be better off dead. Which was so very unlike me.

    I had blood tests and a full check up and talked it over with my doctor. When I went back for the results I was quite shocked when he diagnosed me with having depression and anxiety disorder.

    He explained that all my symptons were the result of this and that at my wost moments I had been suffering panic attacks.

    He couldn't offer any explanation as to why this had happened and prescibed me citalopram antidepressants to reduce my anxiety and help with depression.

    Although they helped I began to notice that towards the end of my monthly cycle I felt worse again and I asked if it could be connected with taking the pill. I was taking microgynon 30. My doctor dismissed that completeley and said it was not linked.

    I kept wondering about it and then after thinking back to when my problems had initially started it tied in within a few weeks of beginning to take microgynon. I had changed from taking marvelon as I was getting really bad spots so I switched.

    I made the decision to stop taking the pill after looking on the net and finding many many accounts of the pill being linked to anxiety and depression.

    I opted for an IUD, to avoid any hormone containing birth control and talked to a women doctor who agreed that the pill could cause problems.

    Since stopping the pill I have felt bad. I could not find any information on the effects of STOPPING the pill, lots about starting and carrying on but nothing about how the body handles withdawing from hormones.

    I have felt dull detached and disinterested. I don't want to talk, just sit quietly, my depression has worsened despite the antidepressants and I have developed an itchy rash all over my body.I have spots on my face worse than when I was a teenager, great big lumpy ones Yukk! I can't sleep properley and I know I am quite horrible to be around.

    I suspected that I might have some symptons on stopping but I thought it would be over in a week or so. I was taking microgynon for 6 months and marvelon for 6 months prior to that.

    Does anyone know how long it takes after 6 months of the pill to return to being a human again?

    I warned my boyfriend that I would probably be a pig until it was out of my system and told him to take any moodiness or stupid comments and behaviour with a pinch of salt. Luckily he is an absolute sweetheart who remembers why he fell for me and what I used to be like before all of this, but I feel so sorry for him and I hate him having to deal with living with me through this.

    I'm getting married in September and I want to enjoy our big day.

    Does anyone know of anything that can help? I'm considering stopping taking the antidepressants, has anyone else been in this situation. I don't trust the advice of doctors, they seem to be at odds with what is really going on judging by all the posts I have read on this site!

    I'm desperate to get back to how I used to be, I miss myself and I don't want to blow it all by carrying on like this.


    Nic )

     
  10. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    hi, this is a question. i was on birth control for about 2 months and then went off of then at the start of a pack. i am now 3 weeks late and have had some brown spotting. me and my boyfreind had sex a couple of times after being off the pill so i am FREAKING out at the possibility of being pregnant. is it normal to miss a period after stopping the pill? pls help me this is too stressful. thankyou)

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    Hi Ikido87!

    A lot of people find they miss periods after stopping the pill, some women dont have them for several months after.
    However it depends if you used other methods of contraception as to whether you are pregnant.
    Maybe it would be worth visiting your doctor to double check about the brown spotting too.
    Its quite possible that it is just your hormones which are still a little imbalanced after taking the pill, but it might be worth double checking!)

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    Hello.

    I was on Evra for a year and a half and now I have been off it for almoust a month. I have terrible side effects such as blurred vision, dizziness, and some kind of very clear, water-like discharge. I also did not have my period yet. Pregnancy tests are negative. I was wondering if anyone had/has similar side effects after stopping using Evra patches? Thank you)

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    THANKS FOR ALL THE INFO LADIES!
    I stopped birth controls (several forms that I used over the years) about 2 months ago. I was on birth control for about 9 years. I experienced a lot of physical illness (some relating to asthma/allergies) but a lot of side effects from the meds- Headaches, extreme fatigue during my period, moodiness, etcc..Im so happy to be off but am experiencing exhausting periods. I think that it will even out after hormones are balanced again. My one concern though is my cysts...which is the main reason I got on birth control when I was 15 years old. I hope that the CYSTS get under control! GOOD LUCK!
    K.B)

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    Espo I know what you are going through I have been on it 5 ortho 5 months and my emotions seemed okay except more sensitive I didn't think about that until feeling with my boyfriend came into play and I'm in love with this man but I sometimes feel numb and it cam on in a matter of 10 min one night and then it seemed everyday I was an emotional rollercoaster. I don't enjoy things anymore like I did etc.. I was making excuses because I did't think it could be the birth control seeing as how all seemed fine in the begginging up until now that is.... but reading all these posts I think it might be the pills.)

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    Hi kbhealth,
    Im on the pill for the same reason (cysts) and want to come off but Im afraid the cysts will return. Has your doc told you anything else you can do to prevent them from coming back?)

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    hey, does the pill stop polycystic ovary syndrome then?)

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    Yes, the pill is a commonly used method to control PCOS)

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    I have been on nordette birth control pills for about 5.5 years. I just recently stopped taking them a few weeks ago to give my body a break, but I have been having a lot of light brown colored vaginal discharge. today i had pink jelly like discharge as well. this has been going on for over a week now and im getting worried. i think it is from me stopping my birth control pills. is this normal? when will it go away? please help. thanks.)

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    hey i had thick jelly like discharge wen i stopped my pill, it went away after a few months)

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    I recently stopped the pill- due to have my period last wed.- still don't have it- I was always regular. I am worried and confused... Any suggestions?)

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    LADIES pLEASE ALSO BE AWARE OF TANNING WHILE ON THE PILL. IT CAN CAUSE SEVERE FRECKILING AND DISCOLORATIONS. i FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY. sOMETIMES ITS NOT WORTH IT, EVEN THOUGH WE WANT TO PLEASE OUR MAN SO THEY DONT HVE TO WEAR CONDOMS. I TOOK A 8 YEAR BREAK UNTILL I MET MY BOYFRIEND WHO SUGGESTED I GET ON THE PILL AGAIN SO I TRIED A LOW DOSE AND I FELT LIKE I WAS GOING TO HAVE A STROKE I'M ALSO 36. mY BOYFRIEND NOW SEE'S THE DRAMATIC CHANGES IN MY BEHAVIOR.I AM QUITTING WHEN THE PACK IS GONE! I DONT RECCOMEND THE PILL TO ANYONE. THEY ALSO FAIL TO TELL YOU THE PILL DEPLETES YOUR BODY OF ALL B VITAMINS. oNE DOC TOLD ME TO TAKE EXTRA VITAMINS TO COMENSATE.IT ALSO CAUSES THINNING OF THE SKIN AND HAIR LOSS IN SOME CASES. LETS HOPE THE MALE BCP IS AROUND THE CORNER.)

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    thanks for your reply shorty_steab. ya i did some research and it turns out that it is normal to have excess vaginal discharge after stopping birth control pills. i guess i just have to wait it out. its very annoying. i have to wear panty liners sometimes because im afraid ill get a wet spot on my pants.

    and deenadani, ive read on here that many people have late periods after stopping birth control pills because your hormones are still out of wack. i wouldnt be too worried as long as you have been careful and have been using protection.)

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    well went to docs about havin such long cycles he wasnt bothered by it and sed i shud think myself lucky havving longer cycles, he sed i am ovulating but jus later, but there must be stil a prob wit me for them to be soo long surely? up to 51 days now gettin longer each cycle)

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    Hello Everyone~

    Here's my history: OTC/Mircette/Kariva/Yasmin/OTC-Lo/NuvaRing(oneday)

    I had serious crying spells on Mircette and Kariva and switched to Yasmin bc the doc said it would be better...whew!!! I was ready to fight all the time...like I could step outside of myself and see how irrational I was, but could not stop myself. My friends mentioned I had become more pessimistic. I did not laugh as much. My DH and I even started marriage counseling!

    I switched to OTC-Lo and suffered serious acne during the transition and it had gone away after a few weeks. 6 months on OTC-Lo and I had gained another 15 pounds!! I exercise 5-6 times a week and 3 times a week weights and eat decent. The doc told me it was bc I was gaining weight that I was retaining water. So I paid for her to tell me I was gaining weight bc I was gaining weight.

    In her defense, she mentioned that hormonal contraceptives may not be for me, but me and DH do not want children now. She gave me the Nuvaring. I wore it one day, but after much thought of these past 3 1/2 years, DH and I have decided to stop OC...this is the first time ever for us. We have always been on the pill. That was last week Friday.

    This week has been fully exhausting, but it is gonna be well worth it. I thank all of you ladies for the insight and supplement suggestions. I have had serious headaches and crying spells...but these, too, will pass. So far my pants fit and my ring fits...many bathroom breaks. My DH mentioned my skin feels different...not as tight. Only one week off the pill and most of the water retention has subsided. I look forward to being my old self again!

    Stay Healthy! )

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    I am 28 and stopped taking birth control in January. I took the pill for 7 years. I have gone through most of the thread, but one of my symptoms I am not seeing. I get hot flashes during the day and night. It really affects my sleep. I get hot and sweat and throw the covers off and then get cold and put them back on. I do this probably 10 times a night. I have not gotten a period yet and took a pregnancy test and I am not pregnant.)

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    Stacy28: I know what you are talking about. While I am normally a colder person, I have had some strange temp changes too. I get hot while sleeping but it bothers me mostly during the day. It seems like it takes nothing to make me overheat. I don't know what's causing it, but mine seems to have gotten slowly better in the past motnh. I don't have any suggestions (this has been secondary in comparison to all the other withdrawal symptoms)but at least we're not alone. Good luck. )

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    I just came across this site and wanted to share my experience...I was on ortho trycyclin lo for about 3 years and went off it about six months ago. I never really had horrible side effects or anything, I just didn't want to put hormones into my body anymore. And I LOVE being off the pill. I just feel liberated now that I don't have to rely on hormones to keep me from getting pregnant. The only problem I've been experiencing is my skin...no one ever told me the side effects of going OFF the pill. I'm 25 and I've always had clear skin, before I went on the pill I never had any problems. And since going off, I've had breakout after breakout. And they're nasty. Big red bumps that leave marks on my fair skin. I never experienced this before. I've really been struggling with it and considered going back on the pill...but my husband urged me to stay strong. I'm an actress so clear skin is so important and it's been awful trying to hide it. It's been a little over 6 months now and I think it might finally be subsiding a bit. I still get a breakout right after my period is finished, but it seems to clear up faster than before. Anyway, I just wanted to put the word out there and encourage anyone who is struggling with this. ALSO...I've been using the Fertility Awareness Method instead of hormones/condoms and it's worked great for me! If you stick with it, it really is amazing. It sounds scary, but once you learn how your body works you realize you have control over your own birth control, you'll never go back. It's been 6 months and no babies so far! You don't have to rely on mood-altering crazy hormones. I just want you all to know there IS another option and I urge anyone who feels like they have no other choice besides the pill to check out <a href="http://www.ovusoft.com/" target="_blank">http://www.ovusoft.com/</a> and read this book!)

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    Hi stacy28 and MissNat;

    Count me in with the hot flashes and weird temperatures. When I was on micronor (progestin only) I'd be colder right before bed and warm in the morning. That is opposite of what is normally accepted. That trend has continued through the six months of triphasil and the now three months post-pill. I used to take the evil little monsters in the evening so I'm thinking that my body is so used to getting the hormones at night so in the morning they had kicked in and the body thought it was pregnant again.

    As for hot flashes, they started about two months after stoppping the pill and now they seem to surface right before and during the first few days of my period. It seems that my body is so sensitive to changes in hormone (estrogen?) levels or maybe that my hormone levels are lower than before I went on the pill so when I experience the dip in hormones, I go into menopause territory. Does that make sense?

    So you are not alone in getting this "lovely" side effect. It will get better, believe me, I was nauseous before going off the pill and for two months after going off. It was only after my third PP period that it petered out and has not been seen again.

    Nete)

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    I found this site today and boy has it made me feel better about what is happening to me. I stopped taking the pill (orthotricyclin) in Dec. because I was on antibiotics and also because I had been on it for about 8 yrs. Well I still have not had a normal period. I'll have some light spotting for about a day around day 28 but then everything goes away. And hormones.. forget about it. I was a complete disaster. I was crying and laughing at the same time and had not idea why I was doing it! I felt like I was going crazy!! And my libido sky rocketed. I had never been so horny in all my life! But now the hormones have gotten better but I fell constantly bloated and even though I go to the gym 4-5 times a week I can't lose the weight I normally would be able to. And my skin has become more oily than before. I am worried that I am never going to have a "normal" period again.
    My doctor told me that it would take a few cycles to have a normal period and the scary thing was that he wasn't that concerned.
    Does anyone else feel like this? And how many cycles have everyone else gone through before they had a normal period again?
    UGH! I am so disgusted with the pill.)

     
  11. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    Hello there,

    Ive neen on Loette for the past 4 yrs and am seriouslly planning to stop it. Ive put on weight around 10kg during that time and have had terrible mood swings, crying and getting irritated most of the time over trivial issues!!!! I didnt suspect that the Pill MIGHT have been the reason, until I read the posts in thois forum!!!! also my eyes become red easily after few mins of reading and watching TV, its also causes me pain!!!
    Anyone of you with the same experience? pls share.

    (Worried) Rose)

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    Stacy
    I can tell you that when I stopped the pill - hope this doesn't sound gross but I would wake and my undies would be soaked and I would have hot flashes- kinda of like after my first baby. It was awful. A doctor told me that it can make you feel like you're going thru a mini-menopause. I can't ever imagine going thru true menopause!!! God bless all of us women and everything we go thru! Men don't have a clue! I also had anxiety and depression. I don't understand why doctors don't tell you that when you start you could have these side effects when you stop? If they did, more women may be less likely to start in the first place!!!! And if we were going to be addicts- wouldn't it be nicer to be addicted to something that would make you uncontrollably happy???!! Not that I would ever do that- but you know what I mean! It's simply crazy- I can't imagine that doctors don't know about this. When I called my doctor the nurse and asked about how women deal with this the nurse said- Well, ya know some women just stay on the pill and others get on an anti-depressant!! That's awful! and outrageous!
    WEll, sorry for going on and on.....hope this helps.)

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    Rose, if you read thru the other posts on this forum you will see that many women have had the same symptoms as you plus many more, e.g. heart palpitations, irritable bowel syndrome, migraines, etc.

    Lou
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    Dear Lou,

    Thanks for the info. The more I read the more worried I get, I didnt know any of these side effects before, the doctors NEVER mention those things. I plan to stop it very soon. Hope I escape some of the post BC traumas

    Rose)

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    Ok - first of all, like many of you have already said, I stumbled on to this site quite by accident but it has been very helful...thanks to everyone out there for sharing their stories. Having said that, I've got a question about side effects that I haven't seen mentioned here yet. Maybe someone can point me in the right direction...??

    I had been on the BCP for about 15 years or so and have finally decided to stop taking it -and yes, there certainly is a kind of "liberation" that happens when you don't have to "remember" to take the little thing every day! ...but I digress...

    My problem is that,although the first week was uneventful, I've been spotting and/ or intermittently experiencing a light period ever since and it's starting to drive me a little bit batty. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I called the dr's office and was told "it's probably normal" (and do have an appointment in a couple of weeks), but in the meantime, I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who may have had a similar experience ...
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    hello everyone, i am very new but have been reading this blog for quite some time. it is the only thing that eases my mind lately. i stopped my orto tri cyclen in late november after taking it for 8 years and now being March i am still feeling horrible. like everyone else here i have not been able to find any thing on stopping birth control only starting and my obgyn thinks im crazy. she has told me that she has never heard of my symptoms happening when stopping the pill. but through this site and other searches i learned that when you stop the pill depending on how long you have taken it you may experience the same symptoms as menopause. i don't want to be long but here are some of my symptoms, i have been tracking them for a few months now and all appear to come at the same time of the month, excluding one week after ovulation. i experience headaches and dizziness from out of this world, heartburn, anxiety, off balance, tight muscles expecially neck and back, fogginess, nosebleeds, cold and hot flashes, and i have noticed that i become quite clumbsy near my period. my periods are somewhat normal and cramps are minimal these other side effects are whats killing me. i heard this all may happen for a few months but not five. if anyone has any suggestions for me or words of advise please i would love to hear them. going back on BC is my last resort and i am almost there.)

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    Hi now a woman,
    I too had taken the pill for 8 years and had nasty side effects coming off. I eventually wound up going on the pill again (for medical reasons) but my doc said that it may take up to a year for someone like me who had taken it so long to feel normal again. I know it sucks but I understand what youre going through...know that youre not going crazy!
    I would suggest calcium/magnesium supplements as well as a B vitamin supplement. Some women here attest to an herb called Vitex, but I have never tried it. It makes me angry that there is no consensus amongst doctors about the side effects of these pills! Augh! And people go through much suffering not knowing why.
    Good luck though, I dont know what more suggestions to give, keep up some exercise and taking vitamins. If youre desparate the doc might recommend anti-depressants- but those involve withdrawl symptoms too!)

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    thanks for your reply, im very frustrated with all of my doctors they pretend that these withdrawl symptoms do not exsist. i do take mag and cal supplements and a multi vitimin. they seem to help some days. i have also started taking st johns wart but no relief yet. only slight insomnia. i appreciate your words of advise they help. this is the only place i have received a straight answer on a time frame that i may feel like this, all docs have said it may be something else because it only takes three months for withdrawl from birth control blah blah. so ive wasted time and money testing for almost everything in my body. this blog is the best!!!)

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    Tashbash7-
    What are you taking now? Do you like it?
    have you ever been on Ortho low or Ovcon 35?
    thanks!)

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    how come no one ever mentioned the fact that stopping the pill causes a withdrawl??? i stopped about two weeks ago and ever since i've felt so low and irrational. i wanna cry all the time and been pretty hard to live with. i've only discovered tonight that there is a link between stopping it and what i've been feeling...so could it be that i'm not going mad? that this a normal response? how long will i have to feel like this and is there any point saying to the doctor?)

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    It's probably the withdrawal from the pill. I got off for irrational thinking and feeling low and those things got even worse when I stopped taking the pills. You're not going mad, your hormones are just trying to rebalance themselves. Take some B-6 vitamins because they are depleted while on the pill and have a lot to do with mood.. and you could also try a supplement called 5-HTP which helps restore a chemical in your mind resulting in a sense of well-being and calmness. I just went out and bought some myself tonight. I recently got off of anti-depressants (I started feeling much better and had a better outlook on things- but I think I might've gone into relapse depression from it since I only stayed on them for a month). I'm pretty sure 5-HTP does the same things as anti-depressants, just without side effects.

    Hang in there! Read through these posts and you'll see you're not the only one who thinks they went mad after stopping BCPs.)

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    Hi hopefull,
    I'm on Ortho tri-cyclen. I suppose its fine, on it I don't get any type of PMS and my acne is a lot better...but then again, I don't remember what it was like to be myself not on the pill! I think taking the pill makes me more prone to nausea and digestive issues...but then again, I don't really remember the non-hormone me.)

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    Tashbash7-
    I know what you mean...I've been on the pill forever. I can't decide if I should try the low version or not. Have you been on the Ortho Tri-cyclen for a while? I don't know what my non-pill body is like and don't know if I want to wait to find out. I've only been off for 1 1/2 and I'm already thinking of going back on. I wonder if the LO version is a good pill? Any thoughts?)

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  12. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    Quote:Originally posted by tashbash7:
    ...but then again, I don't really remember the non-hormone me. That was a big reason I went off them. I had finally made the link b/t my mood problems of recent years, and Alesse (I was on Ortho Novum 777 for 10 years, then Alesse for the last 3). I had just turned 30, and I realized that I had been artificially "hormoned" since high school... "The whole of my twenties... gone to the artificial hormones... I never got to be the 'natural' twenty-something me!" That's what I would say to friends as I discussed quitting. Yes, some side effects these first three months off the pill (physical and emotional, but improving all the time). But, in that first month off the pill I had symptoms of ovulation. I can't describe how neat it was to be reminded of my own fertility!)

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    i'd love if someone could give me some advice...i was on the pill for only about a month and a half, and one day got sick (not related to the pill, just an infection) and began getting bad anxiety and decided to stop taking it. the anxiety continued and slowly got better, it has been a month and i still have some small problems but not nearly as bad. within the past few weeks i have been getting a lot of headaches, feeling nauseous sometimes and also feeling tired a lot. i was wondering, could this have anything to do with stopping the pill? i think it might be because my hormones are so messed up at the moment, i'm on my first period since i've stopped and it's probably the heaviest i've ever had, with terrible cramps. does anyone think stopping the pill could be causing these symptoms (headaches, nausea, fatigue)?)

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    wnderng-
    your symptoms could very well be from stopping the pill. read through the other blogs and you will see that almost everyone here has these same symptoms. the lenght of time you will experience these proplems seems to correspond to the length of time you were on the pill since you were on only a month you sould be back to yourself soon. I got some advice from tashbash7 to take a vitamin called vitex i have only been taking it for a few days but have already felt better!! im sure it dosen't work for everyone but give it a try no harm. by the way...Thanks Tashbash7)

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    I was on OrthoEvra for only five days before I found out that it has three times the amount of estrogen and can have serious side effects... as soon as I found out, I ripped the patch off and regretted ever putting it on. I went to Planned Parenthood to get it and they said nothing about the increased levels of hormones. I feel now I can't trust physicians because they leave information out, and I asked the doctor specificifically about the patch, the effects and the exact nature of it, and she didn't tell me anything like this. I no longer want to be on birth control at all because I was on the pill for a month too and was always bleeding, and now I find out about the potential horrors of Ortho Evra. I just hope there is no negative effects when someone abruptly ends taking the patch after such a short amount of time. I'm really worried... today I had awful cramps in my legs and I don't know if it was the patch, I have never had them before. If anyone knows anything, it would do me good for you to post it. Thanks.)

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    I have been on bcp's for 8 months and as of tomorrow, I'm OFF of them! I went through three months of Ortho-Lo, 3 months of Ortho, and 3 months of Yasmin. I had depression with all three different pills and extreme fatigue and body aches at the end of each hormone cycle. My body is telling me that it's doing something it doesn't want to do and I'm going to listen! I'm a little anxious about what to expect in regards to the side effects of going off the pill. It sounds like the next month or so may be rollercoaster ride. Thanks for a great forum...I've learned more here than I could have imagined and will be checking back daily. One thing I will go ahead and start doing is getting good dose of my B-vitamins and some extra calcium and magnesium. No more hormones for me...ever.)

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    I was on OrthoEvra for about a year or more(before that Ortho Cylcyn and Jasmin for eight years). I had many of the side effects while on the drug. I too went off when the FDA reports came out regarding high estrogen levels being absorbed. I have been off the "patch" for about 5 months. I have experienced severe saddness when I initially went off and since then have not had a period. I followed up by seeing my ob/gyn who then diagnosed me with polycystic ovarian syndrom. (This could have been a condition that I had prior to the patch and pills.) My husband and I then decided to not wait and went directly to a reproductive endocrinologist. I had a battery of blood work done. The tests concluded that I have very high levels of testosterone and a "sluggish" thyroid. I am a healthy 29 year old who always takes care of my body. I weigh 105lbs, eat healthy natural foods, take vitamins daily etc. My doctors are having a hard time fitting me into any of these catagories because I do not have any of the "typical" symptoms of these disorders. I am very concerned that taking these synthetic hormones for 8+ years has created a significant inbalance in my body. The doctors have told me that there are no such side effects from the pill or patch. However, I see it differently. I was wondering if anyone had any known changes in their hormone levels after going off the pill?)

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    Hi, I am a new user.-thanks I broke up with my boyfriend of 7 years about 1 1/2 months ago. At the same time i stopped taking birth control. Since i have been very depressed and lost all self confidence. I went on antidepressants but after reading the "normal" side effects of stopping the pill, i think i will stop those as well. damn medical industry-just want our money. Anyway the reason i started reading was because my skin is going crazy-it started with just neck acne-nasty and nothing on my face. now that i should be getting my period my face is acting out. i am 29 and changing careers so this is really frustrating. any advice?)

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    Hi everyone. I was on Yasmin for 3 months and then low-ogestral for a month and I had to stop the damn stuff. I got sooo sick while on it, and even more sick when I stopped the BC. My body is still recovering, a year later, from being so sick. I lost weight, now have major bowel problems, anxiety attacks, some depression, and random symptoms all the time. I know BC works for some people, but man - I think the stuff is EVIL. So be careful.)

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    Hi I just posted above...could it truly take 10 months for my body to get back to normal ! I"m so frustrated that I got bowel problems once I started the yasmin that I now have. They have gotten a little better over time, but I still have days when i'm on the toilet for hours in so much pain. I had an endoscopy and colonosply and everything is fine. I just have IBS now. Lately i've been dizzy and have headaches. Could this all be hormonal related from stopping the pill 10 months ago? I love this website it's sooo nice to know i'm not the only woman experiencing all of this. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks so much)

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    Hi I just posted above...could it truly take 10 months for my body to get back to normal ! I"m so frustrated that I got bowel problems once I started the yasmin that I now have. They have gotten a little better over time, but I still have days when i'm on the toilet for hours in so much pain. I had an endoscopy and colonosply and everything is fine. I just have IBS now. Lately i've been dizzy and have headaches. Could this all be hormonal related from stopping the pill 10 months ago? I love this website it's sooo nice to know i'm not the only woman experiencing all of this. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks so much)

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    When I am on BC (every time) I have depression and severe anxiety. I am lucky that when I stop taking them, I feel hugely better almost right away.

    My weight has been going a little wacky as I have adjusted to being off the pills, but that's it. I am SO much calmer and happier.

    I have tried pill after pill and this happens every time. When I tell doctors and even mental health professionals, they always act with suprise. Why is this such a shock? It's really frustrating, as I am sure you all know!)

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    Oh, I forgot to mention that the last pill I was on was Mircette.

    My periods are right on track, close to where they were before I was on the pill - pretty regular.)

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    I have been on a combo between Yasmin and Ortho Tri for the past ten years. Started experiencing panic attacks about 5 years ago and have been suffering ever since. I went off the bcp in January and for the first month felt as if a weight had been lifted off me! For starters, I dropped 10 pounds- has anyone else lost weight? I figured it was because I stopped the "fattening bcp".
    In the past month, I have become a monster. I can't focus at all, I don't care that much about anything, highly irritable and confrontational, sever headaches, loss of appetite (or a very strong one at times) but have lost about 3 more pounds due to this all. I came home tonight and instead of crying, I just get angrier and angrier. I found this site and am sooo glad I am not the only one- that's how it was feeling. Like I was about to have a nervous breakdown!!!
    I am somewhat discouraged that this might play out for a lot longer that I thought. Being on the pill for the past 10 years, how long might I go befire I am regular and/or can get pregnant?
    I have started taking prenatals (plenty of B6 and 12). Those are safe, right??? I AM SCARED TO TAKE ANYTHING NOW!)

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    I try and keep telling myself this-

    WHEN YOU THINK YOU ARE IN HELL... KEEP GOING!!!!)

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    Is it safe to assume once my periods are regular the hormones are out of my body?)

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    I went off of birth control last June, and have not had a period. I have had MRI's of the brain, and several tests done. Nothing is wrong, except the fact that I have no period, which I think is due to going off birth control. My doctor says that I have hypothalmic amnerohea. He wants to put me on medicine, but I am highly against it. I tried Prempro, and I hated the side effects. My doctor also told me that I probably have osteopriosis because I have little estrogen in my body. I am 26 years old, and at my wits end. I have tried herbs, drinking parsley, had Reiki done (a healing massage), reflexology.... I don't know what to do. I don't want hormone therapy.

    Can anyone suggest something more natural? What have I done wrong? I exercise 5 days a week for 1 hour. Is this too much? I am also a teacher. Stress? I am diguisted with doctors throwing prescriptions at me.)

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  13. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    Hi Worried--
    This is what I could find about natural supplements to take to help your body while you're trying to figure stuff out. Hope this helps, and hang in there!
    As always, please do a lot of research and weigh your pros and cons regarding which supplements you'd like to try taking.
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    <a href="http://www.womeninbalance.org/page18.html" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.womeninbalance.org/page18.html" target="_blank">http://www.womeninbalance.org/page18.html</a></a>)

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    I have stopped taking Orth-tycyclen for a month is it abnormal to miss a period after stopping taking it? I am worried i have never had this problem,it makes me wonder if i could be pregnent!!! I am only 16!!!)

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    It is very normal to have a delayed period...it's not really missed. It may take some time to return to a normal cycle. Have you had sex and missed any pills...or taken any antibiotics? How delayed is your period? They say that if you don't have a period within 2-3 months that you should visit a dr. or you could just end the worry and take a pregnancy test.)

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    Hi. I have been on Yasmin for over two years. I heard that when you want to Skip over your period you can just take the three weeks worth of hormone pills, and then skip the placebo pills, and directly start a new pack instead. I decided to do this for three months in a row. Which basically means I went 9 weeks straight taking the hormones pills, and not having my period. I finished my last pack a week ago and let myself have a period this time. I have been feeling VERY depressed and have had lots of anxiety and mood swings for the past week (since I stopped taking the pill to have my period). Is it possible that I could be going through some kind of hormonal withdraw from taking birth control for 9 straight weeks, and then stopping for a week? I'm a little scared!!)

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    I started Yasmin 3 weeks ago, today is my first day with the placebo pill.

    Reading these forums made me really scared of the side effects of being on it, and even more of getting off it.

    These past 3 weeks I've had spotting nearly every day, but I've noticed my skin being clearer which is nice. I haven't noticed any changes in my mood, but I have felt tireder than normal. Also, I've had a decreased sex drive, which is what I don't like the most.

    So, my questions for you ladies much more experienced in birth control than me:
    1. Today is Sunday and I took my first placebo pill. What day will my period start?
    2. If Yasmin has such bad side effects, should I switch to another one now? What pill would you suggest?
    3. Has anyone gotten pregnant on Yasmin?

    Thanks for your help!)

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    To answer your question SweetAfton...I usually got my period the 4th day of the placebo pills. I started my packs on Fridays and so I got my periods Monday - Thursday. I planned it that way so I would never have a period on the weekend.

    I just went off Yasmin...I hated it. I was on it for 2 years but was tired, depressed, anxious and started getting bad headaches and numb arms and legs. This is week 2 off the pill and I'm feeling pretty good! I'm taking Vitex and am having a little bit of cramping but other than that I'm happy to be getting these hormones out of my body! I got my Lady Comp today and will start using it tomorrow (do a search and read the thread for more info).)

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    Thank you all for your valuable insights on this forum. I have read many of these postings and haven't seen my question discussed so I thought I would write in.

    I went off the pill (estostep) about a month and a half ago. I had taken it for 7 years. I was really surprised and happy that I received a period only 2 weeks late since I was expecting my cycle to be far more out of whack. I had been taking Vitex since I went off the pill. However, every morning for the last three or so weeks I have had an extremely upset stomach, cramping- the worst!

    I am wondering if this too ould be a side effect from going off the pill. Or I have read Vitex can cause stomach problems so I am wondering if I should just stop the Vitex. (Which I skipped for the last 2 days but still have stomach problems) Has anyone had similar issues? Also my back hurts like every day. I dont know if this is a coincidence and maybe I really hurt my back or if this too could be caused by going off the pill?)

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    feverchic...when I first started bc I had the same bowel problems and they persisted for several months. I didn't make the connection to it being because of the pills until I stopped taking them 3 weeks ago and now I'm fighting the same battle all over again as my hormones are rebalancing. It's very frustrating, but hang in there because it will work itself out. Remember to exercise - this moves your gi tract around and promotes movement in your system. Also, you might want to try a week of probiotics (even a simple acidophillus pill once a day). And as repetitive as it sounds...water water water.

    I was doing great coming off the pill until the last few days. I had some jitters and was (still am)taking my calcium and B-complex vitamins. But these past few days it seems like I'm having more swings in my moods. I was a total b***** to my DH yesterday for absolutely no reason, yet he was still so sweet when I was able to calm down, tell him that I knew I was being like that but I didn't know why, and we had a calm evening where he just stayed with me while I cried and then got happy again. Bless his heart he puts up with a lot!!! I went and bought a bottle of 50mg 5-HTP yesterday. WOW I slept last night, but had some really funky dreams and I felt a little different during the night and when I got up this morning. Did anyone else have a light headed feeling from taking the 5HTP? I feel great this morning as far as my emotions go. Just wondering about some side effects. Thanks for a great forum! And get this...I think I finally found an obgyn that does NOT promote hormonal birth control and completely supports women learning their bodies and controlling whether or not they get pregnant through other forms!)

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    feverchic...Also, I just posted under the 5HTP forum on a similar side effect I had with the 5HTP and the prescription Zelnorm. You might find it of interest.)

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    Reading all of this, I'm nervous for how I'll react when I go off the pill. I have 8 days left before the end of the pack, but I started really heavy breakthrough bleeding already and I'm just crazy with crying and moodiness. I really just want to stop taking the pills NOW, but will that mess me up even more than if I wait it out until the end of the pack? I just don't know what to do. I might take the next few and just skip maybe the last couple... That way I'm at least stopping them CLOSE to when I have a normal period.

    This just sucks. Now I'm almost scared that maybe the way I'm feeling WONT go away when I get off the pills. I've only been on them 5 or 6 months... And to think I might have 3+ months of this crap to deal with before going back to normal makes me really scared!)

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    I think it is such a horrible horrible shame that the medical community is not aware of all these effects of coming off the pill - instead leaving women feeling like they are crazy nutjobs

    If I had known all this 10 years ago, I would NEVER have gone on it!

    I took my last pill on April 1, and had my Flexi-T IUD put in on April 6 (the insertion hurt like well...h-e-double hockey sticks, and I felt cramping and queasiness for first hour, but I was able to go to gym and light some weights that night, and do yoga and go for a 12 km run the next day...still no problems or cramping even...and I did check it was there as I thought it was TOO easy!). Fingers crossed it stays that way!

    I have been on Ortho-Tri Cyclen for almost 10 years now, without any breaks. Due to high family breast cancer risk (my mum was also just dx'd in December with advanced breast cancer and while they say the risk is slight, with a strong genetic risk it's not something I want to mess with more....it's a 'legacy' in my family and if they lie about the effects on moods, then what else might be not disclosed??) as well as some major concerns that the pill is part of the reason for my apathy, high anxiety and low grade depression, as well as plummeting libido - I have decided to go off it. I have realized in my withdrawal weeks I ALWAYS feel so much better, less anxious, more loving, even more sexual.

    I expect some whacky moods from going off it, but I am REALLY hoping that I do not have any of the additional depression, weight gain (I am so active and eat well, so I would definitely notice this as being part of withdrawal if it happened) and I am really really scared of not having my libido come back after so many years! I am really scared that my own endocrine system will be a total mess and not be able to recover well. I have been on it so long after all.

    I definitely am NEVER going back on hormonal birth control, so definitely hope the IUD works out well for me. But I am scared of the transition!

    It's great having this forum, because most women don't know that this happens AT all, and are told by the doctors that the pill "leaves their system quickly" - well sure it does, but then it leaves your body trying to catch up!)

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    Hi, I feel exactly the same as you raykay. I came off the pill in December after taking it without a break for 10 years. I had made the link in the last couple of years between my withdrawal break and feeling great! Each month when it came to 'pill break' time, I instantly felt so much more full of energy, less tired and generally, really good. As soon as I started taking the pill again, my mood & energy levels would plummet.

    I took my last pill end of December 05, had my withdrawal bleed but since then, have had no period. Even though my husband and I have been using condoms since then, I took a pregnancy test, which was negative. But my stomach has been getting more bloated as the weeks have passed. I have been to the Dr's twice - they sent me for blood tests to check my hormone levels (all came back normal) but have not been able to reassure me at all - I don't think they really know what is going on! This website is the ONLY thing that has been able to reassure me that I'm not the only one going through this and not imagining it.

    I have honestly felt like I was going to go crazy with worry these last few weeks. I just want to get my periods back, loose the bloating and feel normal again.

    What's worse is, I kept asking the Dr each time I went back for my pill pescription these last couple of years if it was safe to be on the pill for so long without a break. They told me that there was no harm and that my body would suffer no effects from being on it so long. If that's the case, why haven't I had a period in 3 1/2 months!!!

    The pill packs contains loads of information on side effects of taking the pill etc, but absolutely no information on side effects of coming off. If it wasn't for this website, i would feel I was really abnormal.)

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    Thanks for your story Mrs. C! I too felt more energy, libido, general happiness on my withdrawl weeks...

    I am 4 days past the day I would normally start my pill, and I still feel awesome. Have had mild headaches, but already feel more clear, happy, relaxed and yes...more energetic especially in my workouts - like my withdrawl week is extending itself. In fact, on my pill I used to fall asleep right at 10 on the dot...wherever I was! The last four nights...been fine, staying up, feeling good!

    How is your libido Mrs. C? Was it diminished while on the pill, is it back now? (though bloating I am sure reduces the desire a bit!)

    I can kinda feel mine stirring...I am starting to think of sex a lot more, and want it, though my body still is not as responsive to it when I think of it, but I REALLY hope that it is indicative that my libido WILL come back without much issue.

    I'll get my hormones tested in a couple months if I am having problems - fortunately I have a great doctor - he's male but he is very interested and up to date in women's health and a great listener!)

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    Im on my 7day break, I always seem to be horny lol

    So I know mine hasnt gone! Cant wait to be fully back to normal!)

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    Hey Raykay and anyone else who may be able to help...just a quick question, i asked my gyno if there were blood tests for hormones and she said that it was not worth it and it gets pretty extensive...Is this true? and do i need to see a special doctor or was your testing done with your primary physician...thanks)

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    The hormone tests my doc sent me for were to check for POC and thyroid problems (plus couple of other bits cant remember). Results took about a week - I think my doc sent me as I was so worried about not having periods and didn't believe the negative pregnancy tests due to the bloating!

    Raykay, haven't really seen increase in libido, I think up to now because of all the worry and yes, the bloating is a bit of a turn off!!! I do feel better though for coming off the pills though. Periods are so natural for a woman, I guess I won't be fully reassured until I get mine back.)

     
  14. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    I went off of the pill on 4 March (my Dr thinks I am estrogen sensitive) for the first time in 14 years without a break and I have to say, I feel absolutely amazing. My sex drive came racing back, my mood swings and "sad" days are gone and my hair is growing like crazy. The odd thing is, I never felt that bad while I was on the pill. I will say that I did have about a week or two of constant headaches, but those are now gone. I did have a pretty light period when I normally would have with the pill, but other than that, no spotting or ill side effects. I did just recently visit the doctor for another purpose, but we got to talking about the bc, and my concern that I am not losing weight and thyroid issues. She did say that it takes between 3 to 6 months for your hormone levels and metabolism to "remember" where it was before you went on the pill. She did take some blood to test for thyroid, etc., so we'll see how that turns out. As I am not ready for children yet, I am frantically searching everywhere for other reliable bc. You feel comforted by that 99.9% guarantee!!)

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    This message board has really helped me feel less crazy! I went off the pill in December after taking it constantly for twelve years. My first three cycles were pretty normal -cramps were really bad, and the periods were really heavy. I am in my fourth cycle now, and I've recently starting spotting a little. I used to spot all the time while on the pill, and my doctor always dismissed it as being one of the many side effects of the pill. I'm confused why I'm spotting now after four months after having almost normal cycles since getting off the pill. Is that normal? I also share many of the side effects that have been mentioned - bloating, heart palpatations, dizziness (especially in the mornings). My sex drive has dramatically increased (hurray!) My husband and I are hoping to get pregnant sometime this year, so that helps!
    Has anyone else had spotting after a few months of normal periods? From what a lot of people have said, it takes at least six months to get back to pre-pill status.)

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    at least 3 months on average)

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    okay so here's the deal
    I was on the pill for not quite a year, but i've always had a really hard time remembering to take pills
    I heard that if you take it irregularly, it could be just as bad for you as not taking it at all
    so about 3 weeks ago i stopped...
    if i were still on my meds, i should have started today
    but i haven't yet...
    other symptoms... i have a history of placing symptoms on myself when i worry obsessivly about them, so I'm not sure if they come into play here

    can someone let me know if it's normal not to start a period on time after stopping the pill, even tho it wasn't even a full year?)

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    every body reacts differently, some people are fine and pretty much normal once they stop so yes, its better that u have had a normal period!)

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    I has been one month now since ending my bcp 5 days before it was up and I havent had my period since, though not overly concerned. I am sleeping better, the facial acne/rash was gone in one week of stopping, the weight is really starting to subside (scary because I also work out a lot and I wasn't seeing any change at all over the course of a couple months). I am also quite sensitive to estrogen. I went into a vitamin/health food store last week and discussed my "estrogen" issue with the owner and she mentioned that a cleanse would probly help detoxify the estrogen out of my body. So far so good! I recommend it to all of you, it is called CleanseSMART. Other than the occasional morning headache and nausea, all of the symptoms are subsiding!!!!!! However I am putting off trying my clothes that fit the month before beginning Alesse for a while, I dont want to dampen my victory.)

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    Well, I too was having a lot of the problems mentioned in previous posts. I had no sex drive and started having a lot of depression. The last 3 months of being on the pill, I was having bouts of uncontrollable crying several days a week. I had gotten to a point where I was really lax about taking them and was missing pills left and right, so I just went ahead and quit taking them mid-pack. I'd been on them for about a year and quit taking them 2 months ago. I had a normal period, right on time after quitting taking them. However, it's now time for my period again and nothing yet. I took a pregnancy test and it was negative, so no worries there. I guess I assumed that since I had a normal period after getting off of them, I would be just right back to my pre-pill state. Anyone else have a similar problem? I am absolutely not going back on the pill, though. My husband and I are so excited that I am not only enjoying sex, but am actually looking forward to it again! The sex drive issues, along with all the depression and crying jags, make it a no brainer for me. So, any ideas about this period thing?)

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    Mamacita, the 'period' you have after you stopped, was that probably a withdrawal bleed brought on by stopping the hormones (like your normal withdrawal bleed at the end of a pack). If so, that would not really be a good measure of whether you are/have been regular yet.

    Some women get their periods normally right away, others take months. Some women have it normally for a couple months then seem to have it very late the third time! They say on average it takes 3 months to regulate your cycle again but your mileage may vary! Your hormones need time to regulate themselves again.

    Some women say taking Vitex/chasteberry helps (I don't take it though due to it's risk disclaimer that it is not for people with higher hormone sensitivities like breast cancer, etc...my family has a high risk so it's not something I want to play with! But some say it helps them get regular again).)

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    A lot of others here have said it, but I am *so* glad I found this site! I am considering stopping bc after nearly 8 yrs on it (Marvelon) and could not find very much info on the side-effects of stopping. After I had Shingles this time last year (I am 26 yrs old), I decided to become more pro-active about my health and more consumer conscious. I have been going to a gym now for a year (I've lost 10 lbs!) and have switched to natural beauty products (Burt's Bees). Since going on the pill I have had re-occuring yeast infections. I've done the creams and the Difulcan (sp?) before, but I don't want to be highly medicated so I can be on the pill. I'm also concerned w/ increased risk of breast cancer. So. I'm gonna stop - probably in June when my boyfriend moves away. I'm not so worried about the side effects as I am about getting pregnant. I DO NOT want to give birth. (However, I would consider adoption). What have other women used as contraception instead? I'm looking into diaphragms and/or tracking ovulation plus condom & spermicide. Any advice?)

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    cunning angel -

    If you look around you will find many women trying many non-hormonal methods.

    Centrochoman is a "newer" method some ladies are liking. There are two threads on this.

    Copper IUD's are another option - I came off Ortho Tri Cyclen after 10 years, and got a copper IUD almost 3 weeks ago and so far absolutely LOVE it (it's risk of pregnancy is similar to the combined pill). Check out the IUD Q&A thread.

    Of course condoms, spermicide, diaphragms are all other options which vary in effectiveness (more effective when combined).

    Used in combination with tracking your ovulation (either manually, or with something like LadyComp) these latter methods can be even more effective.

    I am 26 too by the way, and a fellow canuck I went off pill due to increased breast cancer risk (my family has a high genetic risk, my mum just was dx'd at age 48 in December with advanced lobular breast cancer despite her vigilance about it). I eat healthy, am very physically active, but thought it was silly to be decreasing my risk in all other ways except in birth control! Also my libido has suffered and depression & anxiety increased due to the pill.)

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    I was just sent this website by a caring friend. Needless to say I am very relieved to know that there are other women out there who may be feeling the same way I have been, and to have more confirmation that I am not going mentally insane... my hormones are just out of whack! I stopped taking the birth control pill last month after taking it every day for the past 8 years. While on the pill I had gone to the doctor 3 times to ask for a "lower dose" because I felt the pill was making me feel crazy. Of course, no doctor suggested that I go off of it completely because I may just have and extremely sensitive system. Anyway, while taking the pill...(Desogen, OrthoCyclen and something-Lovo but I can't remember the name), I was experiencing anxiety issues, bloating, extreme loss of sex drive, and crazy mood swings. My main issue was anxiety and the inability to just "let things go." After researching the problems taking the pill can cause and discussing it with my mother and my husband, I stopped taking it last month. I had the last pills in the pack and just let the normal period come (always regular, always very short and light). I then just didn't continue to take another pill when I was supposed to.
    I began to feel really great, I thought, "Yes.. I'm going to feel better, gonna loose weight, gonna stop stressing and feeling anxious.."
    And I did at first! I've lost about 10 pounds now in water weight, no kidding. But I didn't think about there being any "side effects" to going off of the pill at all. So, when last weekend rolled around (2 days before the end of my 28 day cycle) and I started to get hot flashes and increased heart rate and feel dizzy... I thought I was literally going crazy. I had no idea what was wrong with me. My appitite suddenly plummited as well, which is highly unlike me. I am 26 years old, happily married, surrounded by loving friends and family, with no big issues to worry about and a "bright and shining" future ahead of me... and I began flipping out that my world was literally coming to an end and I was going to be locked up in the nut-house! To spare the gory details, I have just spent this past week and 2 days feeling crazy and out of control. I did feel a bit reassured when I looked at the calander and realized that this was my week to have a period, and that I was probably just experiencing extreme PMS. I was getting panic attacks (I had to leave the Earth Day festival in the park because I was having one.) I have been crying on and off all week, I've completely lost my appitite, I've been believing that my head is going sick and I'm losing control. I finally started bleeding for real after 5 days of feeling crazy. Then the bleeding just stopped yesterday. My husband has been very supportive and everyone is telling me that it's just my hormones trying to regulate themselves after having a chemical regualte them for 8 years. I've also been told that my body is "detoxing" and that I just need to ride it out and I'll feel better again. Hopefully the anxiety will begin to slip away, as of yet, I still have to take deep breaths and remind myself that there is nothing wrong. But this gets old after awhile and I just want to feel good again! Without having to tell myself to feel good! If there is any advise or just someone who has gone through the same thing out there, I would be glad to hear it. Thank you.)

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    are you taking any supplements? Im 8days post pill and im alot better now. I felt awful weds-sun of the week just gone but got gradually calmer. I dont know whether Im gna go down again, but today i feel ok! I am taking evening primrose oil, magnesiums, st johns wort, and vitamin and iv ordered some 5-htp.)

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  15. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    I was on bcp for 3 years, and stopped taking them in Dec. So, it's been about 4 months. I'm now practicing Fertility Awareness, so I keep track of what is going on with my body.

    In the past 4 months, I've only had my period twice, and breakthrough bleeding once.

    When I first got off the pills, my emotions were much better. I wasn't depressed on the pill, but noticeably not myself. But in the past month, I'm tired, unmotivated, and have had cryed several times for no apparent reason.

    I'm very glad to be off the pills, because putting hormones into my body no longer works with my lifestyle. And I know it takes some time for my natural hormones to get back to normal, but I hope that is soon. The crying-for-no-reason and feeling lonely, etc.. is affecting my relationships and job.

    I'm not sure if this is PMS, or withdrawl from the pills.

    I feel pretty angry the way bcp are so endorsed, but yet there is a strange lack of information about certain things. I don't think doctors have the time for patients, so the best they can do is hand out meds for every little thing.)

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    I have been on BC for almost 10 years. I am 24. I have only been off the pill one time and do not remember what it was like (only six months and a long time ago). I switched from ortho try cyclen to the lo about eight months ago and am having depression and anxiety. I have been depressed before and know there are probably other factors contributing to this, but I have never been so out of control. I am going to stop taking the pill and see what happens. Looking at your experiences, I do not know what to expect. I'll leave feedback in a few weeks.)

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    Hello! I hope anyone can answer my question.

    I was using the BC Patch for almost 2 years and I stopped recently. I do not feel emotionally unstable so far but I'm having uncommon tummy cramps right now which I didn't feel before when I still have my patch. Is this normal?

    I stopped the patch and not planning on any BC except natural method because I got scared of the side effects on my body. My husband and I will just do our best to abstain whenever we have to.

    Thanks and take care.)

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    jesus, I need a place to vent. Here I was thinking that things were getting better after almost 3 and half months off the pill, the headaches, nausea and anxiety were finally starting to go away. Then this week has been back to the same hell. Headaches and anxiety, I am on my period this week so perhaps it's to blame. Although I usually feel normal on my period week... has anyone tried tracking their hormone levels at all with saliva tests? All this time I have been told my problems have resulted from stress and I would like to finally put an end to the mystery. Not to mention, I would really like to know what's going on with the hormones. I am scared to think that perhaps they are perfectly normal and I just have some uncontrollable anxiety disorder. Thanks for the support and take care all.)

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    I, too, just need a place to vent for a minute: The decision to stay on or go off the pill is driving me nuts. On the one hand, I want to stop putting this stuff into my body, on the other, I *really* don't want to be pregnant.
    I'm not married and I'm not even in a relationship where a life-time committment is possible, (though its been a blast). If I go off the pill, it will change how I approach an intimate relationship in the future.
    I don't know if this sounds strange, but, while I control when or if I get pregnant, while my period is regular like clock-work, I feel more equal to men. Less... vulnerable. I don't want to go back to anixously waiting for my period to start, but I sure as heck don't want to have to abstain from sex totally!
    *bangs head on desk*)

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    well why dont you come off and consider other forms)

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    cunning_angel,

    Yes I too have been contemplating. It's been 3 and half of months of bloody hell after stopping. Not to mention, things seemed so much easier when I was on them. I don't particularly need them at the moment. But it was nice to count out three months ahead to see if a period would affect a week in Cuba or a weekend camping. On the other hand, this "hell" has opened my eyes to the world around me and myself. It's like I know myself now. I was on them for so long, I almost forgot who I was. I understand your frustration because you just never know what's going to happen if you stop taking them... but no one can tell you what's best because everyone is different. So I guess continue banging your head on the desk. At some point, you'll just know. Even through all this hell, I just know that I am never going back on those things again.)

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    Has anyone done any research on the hormonal imbalances due to going off of the pill causeing mild to moderate depression? I'm wondering if I've "shocked my system" and now my hormones are not producing the right levels of the "good stuff," therefore I'm feeling depressed and that could be the reason for the anxiety and loss of appitite. Also, does anyone have any opinions on taking St. John's Wort at this time to naturally mellow me out?)

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    I believe the first thing the Women Health Group in this Forum should do is to lobby FDA to add a warning label on all birth control pill about their side-effects and withdrawal side-effects from BCP.

    On April 7, 2005, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) announced that they are asking manufacturers of all prescription non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDS) to revise labelling (package insert) to include a "boxed" or serious warning about the potential for increased risk of cardiovascular events (including heart attack and stroke) and serious and potentially life-threatening gastrointestinal (GI) bleeding associated with their use.........For more information visit the FDA website:
    <a href="http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/COX2/default.htm." target="_blank">http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/COX2/default.htm.</a>

    This resulted in withdrawal from the market of two popular arthritis medications including Vioxx and multi-billion lawsuits won by the plantiffs across America against Merck. (Appeals were made by Merck at the Circuit Courts and Federal Courts))

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    I came across this site last month after doing a search for some information about the effects of birth control. I'm 21, and I started using the pill when I was about to be 18, shortly before I became sexually active. I have used three different brands of pills & NEVER had a problem with them until I switched to the generic version of Cyclessa last summer (I switched because after a while, Yasmin was making my cramps unbearable). I definitely regret the switch, after all of the crap that's gone on with my body during these last 1O months.

    After a while, I noticed that I would always feel nauseous in the morning (but never actually throw up) and during the week that I would start a new pack of pills. This never happened with the other brands I had used, so naturally, I was thinking that I'd somehow gotten pregnant ... which would've been amazing, considering how LOW my sex drive became. My boyfriend and I had gone from having sex ALL the time, as your average 2O-year olds do, to being able to count the number of times we had sex in a month on one hand. Spontaneous sex didn't even exist anymore, and half of the time when we did have sex, I wasn't into it like I used to be. I didn't know WHY this was happening to me, & every time my boyfriend brought it up, I couldn't give him an answer; I just didn't have any desire to be intimate. Along with the nausea and lack of sex drive came the mood swings. I'm a cancer, so I'm naturally moody at times, but my attitude COMPLETELY changed. I became extra emotional, crying over things that never would've bothered me before. All of a sudden I was EXTRA reserved, never wanting to go out anywhere, and feeling insecure/depressed. One minute, I'd be fine, the next minute, I had an attitude, and I couldn't even tell you what I was mad about. Naturally, this caused MANY issues with my boyfriend, who couldn't understand what was wrong with me. Well, neither could I! I also felt like I didn't have as much energy as I used to; I got tired so easily. I just blamed it on school, but I'd never been like this before. I wasn't happy like I used to. I wasn't ME anymore.

    I started putting things together at the end of November that something just wasn't right, so I came online and found a site that mentioned how birth control can lower some women's sex drives. I finally had a reason to give to my boyfriend as to why I wasn't that interested in sex anymore. I started thinking about getting off of the pill, but I was worried about my cycle getting out of whack, getting pregnant, and whatever else could happen, so I sucked it up and stayed on the pill.

    After a few more months of dealing with everything, I couldn't take it anymore, and I looked around online until I found this forum at the end of March. There's no better feeling than realizing that you're NOT imagining that there's something wrong with you. I feel SO much better knowing that I'm not alone in this. After reading about everyone else's experiences, I decided that I needed to stop putting these hormones into my body. I went ahead and finished the pack that I was on, got my period on the 21st of this month, and I was supposed to start my new pack on the 26th.

    I'm going on my 3rd day post-pill, and I'm looking forward to getting back to "normal". I've been having some mild cramps every now & then, I guess because my body knows it's missing something. I also had a pretty bad headache yesterday afternoon, but all of that was expected, after reading about everyone else's experiences. I just hope that my body doesn't take a long time to adjust, and I can go back to being the person that I used to be. My boyfriend has been VERY supportive of me during all of this, and he's been dealing with this on a consistent basis for almost a year now (a month after we moved in together, I started having these problems). I'll admit that I'm worried about my cycle getting messed up (I love being able to look at the calendar and know exactly when my period is coming, and plan different things based off of that). I'm nervous about having an extra long period, like some of you have experienced (It was nice knowing that I won't be on my period when I graduate from college in June, but now, who knows!). I'm hoping that my periods won't go back to being terrible like they were before I got on the pill (they were heavier & my cramps were three times as bad). I'm ANXIOUS for my sex drive to come back, of course. Most of all, I'm looking forward to being happier & having more energy. These last 1O months have been a rollercoaster ride for me, but I'm glad that I took it upon myself to find some info. You know how most doctors are ... they just switch you to another pill and that's that.

    I wrote a novel, but I just wanted to share what I've experienced. I'll update about how my withdrawal is going as time goes on.)

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    I'm 44 -- stopped taking the pill after 22 years. It has been 4 months since I stopped and the best part is the increased sex drive and just "feeling myself again". I had forgotten what this felt like...the pill just made my emotions slightly numb, but I didn't realize it until now. These past 4 months, I have experienced some bloating, breast tenderness, irratibility, and cramping (all around ovulation time), but it was WELL worth it to feel "real" again. My periods were like clockwork the first 3 months, but this 4th month has been different -- my body is finally regulating and normalizing. Feels great! Wish I had known about the sex drive thing 22 years ago...probably missed out on alot of fun.)

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  16. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    After dealing with anxiety, panic attacks and a general numbness amongst many similar symptoms as everyone else has mentioned...I feel constantly on edge...It's a scary feeling..I have decided to quit taking my BCP (Levlen ED)...was wondering if anyone else had quit this pill and what I should perhaps expect?

    I'm currently doing my HSC(graduating year 12) and am terrified of going through anything that will make it more hard for me than it already is to get through.. )

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    I have just quit, not that pill but I quit Lognon ED 11days ago, I have just sat my 1st year exams at uni and I did feel pants thru them, but I got through them, but some thing bad has always happened around exams (relatives died) so I just get through them. Just try and focus on the fact that they will be over soon!)

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    Hi

    How can help me? i'm 29. I started the pill when i was 14. Just started sexual active, the year before. Since than always having a boyfriend, different once. I was always unhappy. My boyfriend had enough of it, so we decided to stop with the pill last year. The first months it went good, comparable with now. After 4-5 months i started to get sexual feelings. Than somethiing happened. after a month or so i get my panic attacks and anxiety moments. Since than it only worsens. I have acne over my whole face. I can't stop thinking negative and destroying myself. The whole time i;m thinking about sex, not only with my boyfriend, but with everybody, especially people who are kind to me. That makes me to feel guily and that gives more negative feelings. I takes now almost a year. Who can help me, i don't see a reason anymore to life if it have to be in this way. I'm even confused if i still or even once love/ed my boyfriend. Is soomebody going through the same things or now about this. How long will it take, what are those feelings meaning.
    PLEASE PLEASE help me)

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    Hey, try and calm down. I have been through a paranoid stage when i was on the pill. and ALOT of people get it off the pill. You had been on the pill for a long time so it will take along time for your body to adjust. If you are thinking of suicidle thoughts PLEASE see a doctor!

    When I was on the pill/and at times off it (only been off it for 12days) I questioned whether i ever loved my bf, but ofcourse i did/do you would have noticed otherwise. I even for about 5days went paranoid that I was gay.....totally random but thats how paranoid i was.
    I recommed seeing a doctor, they will diagnose you. You may be suffering with a form of depression. remember people on here can not tell you what to do, a doctor should be a help especially if your having disturbing thoughts and you cant think why.)

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    i am going to stop taking my birth control at the end of theis pack and was curious as to what vitamins i should be taking. also, is there any sort of herbal contraceptive? please let me know )

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    well be prepared that it will take a while for your body to settle, but then you may not suffer with all the problems me and others have had.
    I'm taking evening primrose oil, magnesiums, 5-HTP,vitamin b complex and st johns wort.

    I think 5-HTP is the best to help depression/anxiety!)

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    I know someone mentioned acne after stopping the pill - but I didn't see any responses. Can someone give me some hope that this horrible acne will clear up? I have been off the pill for almost 6 months, and it has been really bad. I hope this isn't how my skin will normally be )

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    evening primrose oil is meant to maintain healthy skin)

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    Eliana, I'm at 8.5 months with the acne. I'm getting better, but it has taken a lot of patience and work (now I have to deal with the hyperpigmentation and scarring). I have had terrible cystic acne on my face and plain old zits on my back.

    If you are looking for something topical to try, give glycolic acid a shot. It has helped me immensely...I use Peter Thomas Roth (10% glycolic acid (AHA) and 2% Salicylic acid (BHA)).

    I guess we just have to be patient and put forth a brave face (that's just how I deal with it).

    Best Wishes.)

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    Well girls, coming up on four months here shortly and still getting terrible headaches. Although now they seem completely hormonal as they are usually on the same week as my period or directly thereafter (as it is right now). I would like to yell a bunch of obscenities right now because I am so sick of my pounding head and nothing, absolutely nothing being able to relieve the pain or make it go away. Well, except perhaps returning to the evil pill... but I am still not about to do that. At least I am not having panic attacks any more (I should touch wood just in case there). Anyway, just needed to vent a bit... and people wonder why I think the pill is evil. If you had daily headaches for no apparent reason and could take nothing to make them go away, you wouldn't think the pill was all that great either.)

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    This is such a good resource.

    After using Orthotricycline for 2+ years I tried Ortho-lo because it was the only bc that Planned Parenthood offered. My symptoms were much like many of yours, constant crying, no sex drive, etc. I was out of my head. I got back on Ortho regular within a few weeks (or even days). So, if you really want to be on a bc pill, maybe there are better kinds.

    However, I would like to totally get off my bc pills too and am concerned about the emotional and physical turmoil. I think that some women may be more prone to fluxes in their hormones, or more sensitive to drugs.

    Has anyone tried slowly stopping their pills? As in take one less for a few weeks, then two less, then half the pack and stop? I don't know how few you can take without spotting. Maybe a way to wean our bodies off the hormones, or maybe just causing more harm.)

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    Before I posted a blog asking if anyone thought i was pregnant

    I had stopped use of my birth control
    I was over a week late
    I was moody as heck
    my breasts were sore
    and i was sick in the mornings

    I finally got the courage to get a pregnancy test, and it was negative!

    so, yeah, stopping birth control really sucks.

    I just went and got the ring. I'll start that soon. I've heard it's so much better...)

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    I'm now two weeks post pill, & for the most part, things have been going well. I've had some cramps here & there, and a few headaches, but there are definitely more good days than bad. And, my sex drive is creeping back up on me, which I (nor my boyfriend) am definitely not complaining about!

    Anyway, I've seen some posts regarding certain vitamins people are taking now that they're off of the pill. Can someone recommend some to me tell me what they're for? Am I SUPPOSED to be taking any vitamins, & is there a certain time when I should start?)

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    I stopped taking the pill about 7 weeks ago. No bad side effects. First real period after 32 days. I was on the pill for 10 years, so I guess it's possible to take them for a long time and not experience serious problems when stopping. My sex drive (which was quite low before) came back full force after about two weeks. It has actually shocked me how strong it is now and I'm amazed how big the difference is. I wake up in the morning, roll over and look at my husband and feel overwhelmed with desire for him. Sex is so incredibly more enjoyable now and I have much more energy in general and feel happier. Coming off the pill has been such a good experience for me. I've been taking regular vitamin pills - don't know if they have eased the transition.

    I guess only some people have bad side effects and personally I would recommend stop taking the pill anytime. Being able to feel my body again is so much better.)

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    Hi everybody..well Im new to this forum, I found it looking for information online on effects of stopping birth control, I've been on the pills for about a year..started with orthro cyclen lo and had to change it because it gave me nauceas everyday...changed to Alesse which to me gave me very little effects but still felt like a different person...sad for no reason, crying when I was supposed to be happy! well long story short my boyfriend and I decided that I should stop taking them, he missed the old me and so did I...I want to feel like me again...I have a question though...I quit taking the pills half way through the pack, it's only been three days since I stop...should I expect to get a pill induced period? or no? just like taking the placebo pills...or will I not get a pill induced period and should just wait for my normal periods to come back....Im just confused don't know if I should expect to have one or not. Thank you in advance for the help...all I can say is...it's only been three days and I do feel happier!)

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    well...no need for an answer now! I got a pill induced period just later on today...so my body answered me! so far I've felt pretty good besides the part of having a breakdown earlier today...for the silliest reason...and I felt so miserable! thank God my boyfriend was there and goes with me through all of it...don't you just feel miserable when that happens? =( anyways...hoping it will get better and better by the day! thank you)

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    hello.
    wow!!! I was so worried that something was serioulsy wrong with me until I thankfully found this site. About 4 months ago I started taking Marvelon 28... obvioulsy for the reasons of not getting prego.. The first few weeks I felt sick all the time, breast tenderness, fatique, and I was very bitchy. I thought maybe after a few months this might go away by itself. However over the months these symptoms became even worse. i became severly depressed to the point I didnt care if I was here anymore. I also cry over nothing. I thought maybe this was all caused by moving out of my home town to niagara falls with my boyfriend or even the two deaths in the last few months. However I have always been a very strong person and usually nothing can take away my happiness and drive for life. I became tired all the time and my body constantly aches all day long. I feel like I am 21 going on 88. I actually thought I was dying or something. I am not motivated and my goals of being a singerÈsongwriter dont even matter to me anymore. My boyfriend and I fight over the dumbest things and I am a complete ***** to him every other day, i change my mind on a regular basis and nothing seems to please me. We get into bad fights and I have even become very angry and violent which is NOT ME!!! My boyfriend has tried so very hard to help me and the best idea he had was to get off birth control, just to give it a try. I didnt like this idea because of the obvious reasons, but if it meant being myself again then I thought why not. I have been off the pill for about 2 weeks my depression has gotten a bit better, it comes and goes. One day I feel amazing the next I feel so low I dont want to be here. I have to say it is a little better though, however I have abdominal pain every once in a while, my breasts have been hurting for weeks, and I feel like complete **** everyday I wake up, i like to sleep a lot, and my body hurts everyday. I hope this goes away soon. I want to feel good again soon. I am so glad I found this site because I thought I was alone. My best advice is not to take antidepressants because it is jsut another pill you have to get off of. Take a multi vit everyday, and a heath product called 5htp this increases your seritonin levels. You can find this at health food stores. Obviously we cant trust doctors if they keep precribing this crap to us woman. I hope this goes away soon for all of us. Hope to talk to ya soon ladies...Thank god for our loving boyfriends what would we do without them!!!

    *Frustrated and confused*)

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    I was just wondering if anyone has had problems like ovary pains after stopping birth-control. i have all of the emotional stuff, but I'm having hard sharp ovary pains. I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice.thanks...)

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    Alicia,
    Your pains are probably related to ovulation or ovarian cysts. Are the pains cyclical and only last a few days each month? Or is it more constant. If its more constant it may mean you have cysts. If they are cyclical it may be pains around ovulation.)

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    Well the pains were really bad when I first stoped taking bc, like really bad cramps. They have kind of stopped and now it's kind of like a sharp pain that comes and goes. It's not as bad as it was like a month ago. I have only been off of bc for a month now and I guess after my first period then I will see if the cramping goes away. If not I'll go see my Doc.. thanks!)

     
  17. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    Hello everyone,

    I "was" an extremely healthy 27-year-old women who ate heartily, exercised "extremely" and very happy. I decided to try bcp's to help with my mild acne problem. "Worst decision" ever! I took Yasmin for 7 months with no bad side effects and my acne cleared.

    I then realized that I shouldn't be taking this unnatural stuff for my body. I stopped about a month ago and have been living an absolute "hell".

    Extreme panic attacks (which I never had before) horrible indigestion, nausea, no appetite, irritable, shaky, just all around bad bad bad!

    The worst part is having 2 gynos saying "Oh,it's the bcp's because it's already out of your body, you probably have a stomach flu. Man I hate gynos. They probably have some sweet deal going on with the makers of bcps.

    My sickness first showed up around the time of ovulation and then went away a bit. Then... it came back up recently, right when I "should" get my first normal period. (if it does come).

    I am just so miserable. My thyroid is all messed up, as I got it checked and it was showing signs of "hyperthyroidism".

    I can bearly eat or even stand the smell of food. It's so awful and depressing.

    I think the two big things that are helping me manage is yogurt (helps digestion + much more), and vitamin B6 (200mg)extended release. (really helps to calm). So if anybody has similar symptoms as me, please try this. Even though you are lactose intolerant, the bacteria in the yogurt breaks down most of the lactase before you digest it.

    Also, if anybody else has gotten off of Yasmin, please fill me in on your experiences and how long it took you to feel normal again.

    Thanks everybody!

    Aloha from Hawaii)

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    Hang in there Jen!
    I went through the same things going off the pill so youre not going crazy. Have you seen this website dedicated to problems with Yasmin??

    <a href="http://www.medications.com/index.php/se/Yasmin" target="_blank">http://www.medications.com/index.php/se/Yasmin</a>

    you might find it helpful)

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    Hello Ladies,
    Thank God for the internet.. Can you imagine going through all this and not knowing that you're not alone and not going crazy?? Anyhow, I went off the BCP about 5-6 weeks ago because I didn't get a new prescription in time and figured I might as well "take a break". While the first couple of weeks were pretty ok, the road became bumpier thereafter.. I had been on Diane 35 for about two years (due to bad skin) and before that on Yasmin and another on - I forget the name.. I was always just so happy that I could control my periods and that the cramping was practically non-existant with the BCP that I never paid any attention to the potential damage it might be causing my body. So after the first two weeks I think I began to feel somewhat moody, but didn't pay any attention to it since - although overall quite stable emotionally - I do get the occasional moody phase here and there. But this past week I went through a couple of bouts of crying and just feeling totally and utterly sad. I also got a dizzy spell that lasted the better part of a day - feeling as if I was high but under a dark, dark cloud. I felt totally detached. The next day that symptom was gone, but I was fighting back tears (for no apparent external reason) and finally broke down and wept. Funnily enough, after that I felt somewhat better. And today has been pretty good. I went and got a vitamin supplement today, mainly B vitamins with some added C and E. I understand that B is important in reducing stress. We'll see how that works.. I might try the 5HTP one if this doesn't work out. My main concern right now is that my mood swings will, well, continue swinging wildly.. I do think it helps to know that this is a chemical brain reaction more than some unresolved issues in my life. Has anyone here taken B vitamins as a means of reducing depression/mood swings and if so has it been of any help? Also, I've read some horror stories about women who have taken the BCP to keep problem skin in check and how bad their condition got after coming off it. I wonder if there are women who have not had such an extremely bad experience in that department. When I was put on Diane 35 I was told that when you come off it after a while your skin should still be better off than before taking it, but that is not what I am reading here. So, is there anyone who could possibly give me a positive outlook on this issue?? I would love to hear some good news coming from all of this.. The way thigs stand now, I really don't think I'll ever go back on the pill. It's scary what we are willing to do to our bodies. Let's hope we're starting something here and that a century from now we'll only figure in medical textbooks as an example of a medical faux-pas. Here's to hoping..)

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    It infuriates me that these drug companies use us all to test out their crap, and that the whole medical system prescribes it to us. They could be using their stupid income to develop a pill that DOESNT change who you are, give you depression and a billion other problems.
    The whole bloody system is so unbelievably obnxious.

    *end rant*

    I was on Levlen ED and decided to quit...Well I recently had my last "BC period" and then didnt take the pills after those sugar ones, and i have totally quit the pill.
    My period stopped on sunday, and it is now thursday of the next week.
    I havent noticed any huge changes yet but today I had bad bad cramps...like period pain only without the period. It sucked.
    Hoping these symptoms will go away soon

    Bless you guys for helping me open my eyes to what was really wrong with me. Much love. xoxox)

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    Hi...I really need some opinions here......I stopped taking the pill probably like a week and some days ago...I've been ok besides the crying attacks and all that...just couples of days ago I started feeling weird...waking up bloated in the morning..with appetite but nothing looks good to eat anymore! but then Im starving!!!)...just today..started having something like cramps in my lower abdomen they are not like period cramps though...mostly if I press it bothers me...doesn't really hurt..feel maybe is an imflamation? I don't know would appreciate opinions pls my boyfriend and I use condoms everytime and are very careful so I'm thinking it can't be anything like that...I just don't undertstand then why all these weird feelings! thank you in advance!)

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    Hi Sliga,
    I can't tell you much about your cramps other than that they sound pretty normal under the circumstances. You might want to be extra careful with sex though in the near future because your cycle might be pretty out of sync and you may not be able to tell when you're ovulating / when there's a higher chance of an 'accident' happening. Regarding your weird hunger-no hunger feeling, I am going through the exact same thing right now. Am definitely eating less. I read in one of the forums here that (funnily enough) for a time your body reacts as if it's pregnant when you come off the BCP, so I'm guessing these are pseudo cravings. I also open the fridge feeling like having something and then there's nothing there that I want to touch. I think it'll pass pretty quickly. Make sure you drink a lot of water to keep hydrated. I always find it easier to clue in on what I would like to eat by first deciding if it's something salty or sweet - from there it gets a bit easier. If you go without eating for most of the day just make yourself eat a smaller portion of something, to make sure that you are taking in some nutrients. Good luck and take it one step at the time.
    Quote:Originally posted by Sliga:
    Hi...I really need some opinions here......I stopped taking the pill probably like a week and some days ago...I've been ok besides the crying attacks and all that...just couples of days ago I started feeling weird...waking up bloated in the morning..with appetite but nothing looks good to eat anymore! but then Im starving!!!)...just today..started having something like cramps in my lower abdomen they are not like period cramps though...mostly if I press it bothers me...doesn't really hurt..feel maybe is an imflamation? I don't know would appreciate opinions pls my boyfriend and I use condoms everytime and are very careful so I'm thinking it can't be anything like that...I just don't undertstand then why all these weird feelings! thank you in advance! )

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    Thank you pacificspirit! it makes me feel so much better to hear that Im not the only one and makes me not worry so much about it! =D
    anyways...this cramplike feeling...have not gone away and all I can think of that has been different has been using condoms again...I wonder if that could be the reason I feel irritated there...all I can do is wonder =S and just wait for the feeling to go away and if not doctor here I come...but Im being positive! thank you so much for your answer! about being extra carful qith sex all we are doing right now is relying on condoms since I've tried couple of pills already and they all gave weird effects that I couldn't stand for so long...I was frustrated for a while because it seems like there's nothing else to use for protection and the idea of "only condoms" (relying on them) scares me a bit... =/)

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    jenergy10,
    Do you think that the thyroid issues are related to the pill? I'm wondering myself because I've been recently diagnosed hypothyroid since stopping bc and I don't have any signs except for tiredness and no period. Since it's all hormonal I'm wondering if it is linked somehow and no one wants to link it to birth control use.)

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    i have been off the pill about a month now...ortho trycyclen lo...my period was supposed to come 4 days ago, but there is no sign that its coming...im really nervous...is this normal? i mean i feel no other symptoms at all...is that normal?)

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    Im the same, yes apparently its normal cos our cycles are messed up untill the hormones are balanced.)

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    I felt really, really good for the first two weeks after coming off Ortho Tricyclen Lo. I mean, I was full of energy and was happy...it was nuts!

    But then i became sluggish and tired all the time. I started walking to see if it would help me get that energy back, but what happened instead is I gained 15 pounds! Its all mostly around my belly and my hips, its driving me insane. It came on so quick, I have stretch marks and this has left me very upset. My diet has not changed, so I can only assume its pill related?

    Also, I have not had a period since January (when I quit). Its been five months now...i was always regular before the pill and during the use of the pill. I am not pregnant, I have tested twice and both results were negative.

    Anyone else had this problem??? How did you correct it? Im making an appt with my gyno to make sure its just hormonal imbalance and nothing else...)

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    i made an appointment with my gyno tomorrow...im pretty sure that im not pregnant seeing as how i always used a condom even on BC...i have noticed some weight gain after getting off ortho trycyclen lo...i called both the makers of the BC and the health clinic to make sure that skipping periods are normal...regardless my gyno is still going to give me a pregnancy test...ill probably go back on it though bc pregnancy scares are way too hard to handle!)

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    So.....some doctors I guess ARE aware there are side effects coming off!

    I met with three doctors last week along with my mum for genetic counselling (for breast cancer gene) and I told them I had stopped the birth control pill after 10 years on it. One of them immediately asked how I was doing with that, as some people take a lot of adjustment after and have a nightmare time coming off of it....I was able to tell her so far I have been doing very well but know many whom have had a much harder time.

    So it seems there ARE some whom ARE aware it is no picnic coming off of it!)

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    YAYYYY! Im so glad to hear that came out of a doctor's mouth. My doc (a former ob-gyn) was very supportive and knew that some have a nasty time with hormone withdrawal. Hopefully more docs will become aware of this too so more women don't have to suffer thinking they've gone off the deep end.)

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  18. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    American Girl:

    Yes, I really believe there is a definite link! I just got back from a visit with my endocrinologist and am tentatively diagnosed with "silent" thyroiditis, which is a mild case that will need no treatment and go away on it's own. Birth control pills affects your pituatary glands which is also linked to thyroid function, so yes I really see the link there.

    What exactly are you diagnosed with? Hopefully, you are in the same boat as me and just have a mild case of thryoiditis that will eventually go away. Silent thyroiditis is very similar to "post partum" thryoiditis that happens after giving birth. So essentially, when a women takes bcps the body of course thinks it really is pregnant, so right there, I see the possible link. I was relieved to find out that I did not have graves disease, which is much more common than thyroiditis.

    Everybody in this thread:

    I highly highly recommend you go to your general doctor and get a simple blood test to check your thryoid levels. Ask for a TSH and also a t3 test. In my case, I had a low tsh (.17) but normal t3 and t4 reads. Having a low tsh means that I had mild hyperthyroidism. Guess what are the symtoms of hyperthyroidsim are:

    heart palpitations
    nervousness
    anxiety attacks
    feel weak
    possible bowel problems
    possible sweaty hands

    So can everyone see how there could be very relevant links to everyones symptoms and bcps? Women are 8x more susceptible to thyroid problems than men, so it makes great sense to go and check your thyroid if all of are also having the same symptoms as me.

    To update everybody, I am feeling much better than a few weeks ago. Thanks everyone for your support and links to more info.

    I really encourage others who have also had problems with Yasmin to report their findings to the FDA. It only takes a few minutes and can help save others from going what we have went through. I notice they are really pushing Yasmin now in commercials right now.

    <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medwatch/" target="_blank">https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medwatch/</a>
    <a href="http://www.medications.com/index.php/se/Yasmin" target="_blank">http://www.medications.com/index.php/se/Yasmin</a>

    Everyone remember if possible go check your thyroid and be sure to let everyone know the results. It's only a simple blood test and hopefully the results can put your mind at ease.)

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    Oh my - what have I gotten myself into? I'm 49, have been on the bill for around 15 years, and wanted to know - have I gone through menopause or not? So, with assent from my doc (a woman), I stopped the pill to get my hormone levels tested in 3 mos. But alas. I went off around 2 weeks ago and have started feeling very tired. Of course, I have a ton of other things going on in my life. But it's a different tired than from stress... which is what prompted me to start to research. And I found this site. Well, I've gotten lots of tips from all of you who have gone before and I will research more about how to take care of myself in this adventure. Keep writing everyone because I found this all very helpful. Thanks everyone.)

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    Hey,
    I have been reading these posts, and i must say i am relieved i am not the only one going through weird symptoms after getting off the pill. I have been on BCP Mircette, and then Ortho Tricyclin lo for 6 years, since i was 18. i went off in February. I am not really experiencing any depression, or anxiety, but i have been nauseaus ever since. I had a false positive pregnancy test as well. I also found out i have gastritis, which i am certain is from going off this darn pill. Has anyone else had severe nausea, bloating, and loss of appetite due to withdrawl from the pill? my period came back right away, but it is only lasting like a day and a half which is odd too. the nausea hits when i have my period, and when i am ovulating it seems. any advice would be greatly appreciated. I just want to feel like myself again!!!)

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    Hi ladies,
    Thank goodness for this site! The last few weeks i've felt so alone like i was going insane.
    I am 19 years old and have been on Microgynon 30 for over a year, recently i have felt very withdrawn from everything in my life including my gorgeous loving boyfriend of 2 years. We have a fantastic relationship and i have been worrying myself sick that something had changed within me but i felt hadred towards family, close friends, family and colleagues when noone had done anything to me.
    When i first went on the pill i took a bad reaction and was feeling very similiar to the way i have recently and came off straight away but did not think it would affect me again this way. After finally breaking down and telling my boyfriend, friends and family how i have been feeling i decided to come off the pill- mid pack.
    It has now been 4 days since i stopped taking it and this morning i got the breakthrough bleed thank goodness. I could not believe the relief i felt after speaking to ppl about my state of mind and the last few days have definately been better than before.
    I still feel nausea and tearful at times but as alot of you are feeling the same i feel much more at ease that i am not alone.
    I have also started taking Evening Primose Oil, Vitamin B and eating fruit and veg containing magnesium and drinking lots of water hopefully this will detox my body asap.
    I hope that i can feel back to normal soon as i cant stop apologising to everyone for my uncontrolable and erratic emotions. It has made me realise how much i love them and mean to me.
    Stay strong ladies you will get through it.
    PS. I will definately be asking every question under the sun if me and my boyfriend decide to go on another pill but to be honest feeling like this has put me off for life!!!
    Take care and be strong xxxxxxx)

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    Hi all
    I'm so glad to hear all of you gals talking about this- I'd been on BC since I was 15 (now 23), and just recently went off my last attempt, the nuva ring, last month.
    I had been fine for years, but the past couple of months just had so much trouble- tired, achy all the time, sad, sex had become AWFUL and painful, etc. So my doc switched me to lo, then nuvaring when that didn't work, and the nuvaring just made things worse. So I finally just decided my body was telling me it was done with hormonal bc, and I stopped completely.
    Now- I feel better, although I think I've gained a few pounds, and my sex drive has gone back up. Which is great. Only thing- I haven't had my period in over a month now.
    I had one normal one after I stopped, and now it's been about 40 days. It's weird- I have no idea if I was regular before bc becuase I was so young! I took a preg test 10 days ago and was negative, so I guess I'll just have to wait it out an see???
    I hope this doesn't effect me permanently, that's such a scary thought- I want to have kids!)

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    I am almost three months post pill and it really does get better with time! I had a great first month, the second month was awful, and this third month has been on the upswing. Remember that your body is having to detox from all the hormones. My ob-gyn (one of only three in the state of Texas who will NOT prescribe birth control pills because of what they do to a woman's body) explained to me that these pills are hormonal steroids. So you not only are affecting your reproductive hormone cycle, you are influencing all other hormones in your body and the steroid levels associate with them. The extreme fatigue around the time of my period really bothered me, but like I said before...with time it gets better. I think a two week detox on "Simple Cleanse" by Enzymatic Therapy really helped. It's very gentle and your normal everyday life isn't affected by the cleanse. Remember that these are toxins to your body and we all know how our bodies get rid of toxins...the simple cleanse just lends a helping hand so to speak. Anyways, just my two cents for now...keep taking the vitamins and the supplements and think positive! It gets better!!)

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    In response to Ariel, I am in a similar situation as you which is a relief to hear. Everyone I have read about thus far who has had irregular periods after coming off bc has just not gotten one at all. But just like you I had a regular period the month after going off the ring, now I haven't gotten my period for a week. I have been on a 28 day cycle TO THE DAY ever since I got my first period 9 years ago so this irregularity is freaking me out, especially since my first period post-nuva ring was normal. However, I was only on the nuva ring for 2 months and quit after it made me feel severely depressed. Could two months of synthetic hormones really throw off my cycle like this?)

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    I have been on birth control since I was sixteen. I am now nineteen and i went off the pill in january and have been off for five months now. I haven't had a period since, ive been gaining weight, and i have had horrible acid indigestioin. I feel nauseated after i eat and i get really bad mood swings. i also get anxiety when i am even around my close friends. i feel depressed alot too, and i feel tired every day even when i sleep a full eight hours. every time i type in effects of bcp on google it just says that people that go off the pill will eventually have their period. NO HELP. finally after searching i came to this site and i was really relieved to see that it wasnt just me with some of these problems. But i dont know how to fix them. Does anyone have any advice to how i can get back to normal again?)

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    Well, this site seems to have brought me good news and bad news. The only really good news is that I'm not the only one who experienced these symptoms and I'm not crazy. However, it still doesn't really help me all that much. I haven't read too many responses that it will get better and my hormones will return to normal someday.
    Basically, I was only on the pill for a little over two years. I gained a lot of weight on the pill Orthotricyclen (even though the docs said it doesn't cause weight gain - ha). Switched to Orthotricyclen lo and instantly lost the water weight, but ended up with break through bleeding, bad PMS, and acne. Tried another brand (Yasmin)- which caused me to have a urinary tract infection, rash, hair loss, and extreme weight loss. Then, tried my last brand (Apri) which caused fatigue and depression. That's when I decided I was through with the pill - although my doctor felt I should just keep trying a new brand.
    I was optimistic about getting off the pill and thought I would return to my old self. My optimism quickly went away when I started to experience the anxiety and depression. I was crying almost all the time (really out of character for me) and ended up seeing a psychologist who also thought it was hormonal. Then, began the night sweats and hotflashes. I started losing hair like crazy, got excess hair (peach fuzz on my face - like menopausal women have), disgusting acne all over my face, back, chest (which I didn't have pre-pill), and deep wrinkles on my face almost over night. I also lost about 10 pounds (bringing me down to 92 lbs so really didn't need to loose any). The fatigue is unbearable - I feel tired all the time and have huge bags under my eyes. Only good news - I got normal periods all along.
    I have gone to doctor after doctor, including endocrinologists. They've all tested my hormones and said I was in the normal range and there's "nothing wrong with you" and that I was just depressed. After nagging, they gave me an ultrasound which showed two large ovarian cysts (I'm convinced these are from taking the pill). I've since have those removed hoping that it would help my hormone issues - it didn't.
    So, needless to say after being off the pill for almost a year now, I gained the weight back. The crying has gotten better, but all my other symptoms remain. The depression has been replaced with regret that I ever took these stupid things and that I probably won't ever be back to my old self. Has anyone here returned back to the way they were? I hope somebody will give me some hope - I really don't want to go back on this stuff just to feel "normal" again. I would strongly suggest that nobody ever take this junk in their lives.)

     
  19. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    Hey all. Glad I found this site and everything that I feel/go through isn't just me. I've been taking Trinessa (generic ortho) for about a year now and I finished my last refill... and I am going back to the doctors tomorrow. The thing is, I won't be asking for another refill of it for a while. Is it okay to go off it? I know that you'd be extremely fertile for a month or three after getting off b/c, but should I? I don't really want to take the pills anymore... ever since I have tried it, I've been feeling more depressed than usual, I snap and pick fights for no reason with my family members and significant other and it's just really making me feel out of it. I want to quit it, but I'm afraid of feeling the severe side effects (and of course the potential pregnancy risks... however I am prepared to use condoms in the meantime).)

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    I am recently off birth control. I've been taking Vitamin B complex to help with moods, it really does help! I am also taking Vitex to help restore my menstrual cycle and hormone balance.)

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    Quote:Originally posted by lesley:
    I am recently off birth control. I've been taking Vitamin B complex to help with moods, it really does help! I am also taking Vitex to help restore my menstrual cycle and hormone balance. ------------------------------------------------
    Let me know how the Vitex turns out. Basically all I found were menopausal supplements, mostly soy. You read bad and good things about them.

    I've been off the pill for about 3 months w/good and bad results. I quit taking b/c of the weight gain and mood swings. I've already been on 3 different types of pills and had pretty much the same results for all. Like most everyone else I felt great at first being off the pill. Since being off i've experienced mood swings and depression, which in the last 2 weeks have decreased some, weight loss, and bad acne. The sprintec helped a lot w/my acne so its pretty much a gamble there. As with most reactions to medication you will have to decide if the benefits outweigh the cost. I do think it is hard for doctors to find what works best with you since hormone levels between women vary so much which is why they are always switching b/n brands.

    I read that certain lifestyle changes can fluctuate hormone levels. I am looking for a more natural approach then birth control. I am 27 and want to have children though so I am not that concerned about pregnancy.

    I have found that exercise "pilates" does make me feel better physically and reduces some fatigue, depression, and stress. Go to a class if you can instead of videos. Its good to have support of a group. I am going to try changing my diet, try some supplements, and hopefully over time things will get better. I will let everyone know if I find anything else that helps me. I will definately be back looking for suggestions and updates.)

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    I am so sorry iamamess! What happened to you sounds so hard. Don't ever feel like it's your fault. We are brought up to trust the medical community to look out for our health. It's true that we should always use common sense and good judgment, but we tend to place our lives in the hands of people who went to school for about 12 years for taking care of other people and for knowing the information necessary to protect people's health. After 5 years of pain and suffering and NOT being helped by doctors, I realized that it is up to me and no one else to take control of my health! I no longer believe everything that someone in a white coat or scrubs tells me, and it is absolutly liberating. I'm convinced that the pill is going to continue cause a lot of problems for women and no one in the medical community will acknowledge it for years to come. Then it will be some big "revelation". Right.)

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    We're all busy with our lives and we do trust people who are trained and prescribe drugs passed by the various national agencies as fit to be prescribed.

    After all it's not a one to one relationship. It's not like we're buying a painting or something and it's up to us to judge whether we like it or not and it won't harm us if in future we decide we don't like it. These drugs, which affect our bodies, are passed by the authorities.

    And we're not told basic things about these drugs which are very hard to find otherwise. Even when women suspect that something is wrong with these drugs they can still be misled because of the - I hate sounding like a conspiracy theorist but it's true - the propaganda about "hormones".

    And you can't get the right answers until you know the right questions to ask. When you don't know the questions to ask, nobody bothers telling you the answers. That's not our fault, as laurafiona says and you mustn't beat yourself up over it.

    A lot of us don't know basic things like these drugs being steroids just as potent as anabolic steroids, that withdrawal bleeds are just drug induced bleeds and not menstruation, that these drugs do not "regulate" menstruation or "treat" acne or menstrual flooding but stop menstruation completely and only seem to suppress symptoms sometimes because they are powerful immunosuppressants.

    We've been bombarded with stuff in the media about "hormones" and conditioned to think that these are the same as our bodily hormones (ditto for so-called "natural " progesterone which surprises a lot of people) and that "hormones" are at the root of a lot of health problems when they come nearer the end of the bodily chain and external hormones actually act as a blunt instrument suppressing the bodies' natural process and often changing/damaging the body quicker than the body can repair things.

    And a lot of people who write about such things in the media know no more than we do but are fed disingenous stuff about these drugs with the same ambiguous vocabulary in press releases etc. And many stock exchanges, pension funds etc rely on these drugs ... And what about the insurance issues ...? It's so big, it's crazy.

    How does someone who believes they get "delayed menstruation" when on the Pill learn to ask about withdrawal bleeds unless someone explains it to them? It's outside their conception when they're left under a false impression by the use of ambiguous vocabulary such as "period" and have no idea that withdrawal bleeds can exist?

    How does someone who doesn't know that these drugs are steroids ask questions about what these drugs are when they are left under the false impression they are simply "a little bit more than their own hormones"?

    Think about all the times there is talk about the effects of "steroids" in magazines and people assume, including the authors themselves, that they can only mean corticosteroids and anabolic steroids and it is never explained that steroid sex hormones have the same potential for side effects and damage. I've seen doctors' columns in publications which talk about steroid side effects, without explaining this when they must know full well that women are then left under the false impression for the most part that they are only talking about corticosteroids.

    How does anyone who doesn't know that progestins can be androgenic know to ask whether a so-called "female hormone" can have some of the effects of a so-called "male hormone"?

    I bet a lot of us wish we could turn the clock back and know what we know now but a lot of the stuff I have found out is in fact very hard to find and I only found it once I knew the right questions to ask and I stopped (tentatively at first) accepting prescribed drugs. It takes bitter experience to know what are the right questions and to have the confidence to stop and not be distracted and some people never reach that stage through no fault of their own.

    We are conditioned to be "diagnosed" - to seek a diagnosis when things go wrong. But I've come to realize that's not the important thing. The important thing is to deal with the basic nutrients which are at the root of the bodies' processes. This is not easy to find out about as well. Even herbs can have moulds on them which can make worse body changing fungus (which often plays a major part in body changes because these drugs are immunosuppressants).

    Women are seeking more and more "alternative therapies" because they are confused and bewildered at being told that the drugs they have been prescribed are not causing their ill health. It's difficult to come to terms with the cynicism of what goes on. And there is a cynical aspect to some of the alternative therapies as well.

    But I've reached a point when I don't understand something I won't just accept a doc's "diagnosis" which is often, at best, partial and ignores the real causes. I don't accept that something is too complicated for me to understand either or that if something doesn't ring true, I should accept it because it's part of a "diagnosis". I've stopped being eager to find a "diagnosis" and a neat medical category to fit in, as if the words were the be all and end all.

    There is also a very sophisticated network of PR about these drugs and very carefully worked out disingenous "explanations" which distract from the physiological realities. If things didn't damage people (ok, didn't damage ME!) of course such PR wouldn't bother me and I'd think, "Ah well, everyone has to earn a living". But it's done on the sly because there is a constant battle to stop the problems of these drugs coming out into the open and it can be psychologically very astute at swaying those groping for answers.

    In many ways the PR campaign for these drugs has been some of the most successful in history. There's a whole raft of conditions which have become common since the widespread prescription of these drugs which are in fact known side effects but which are now publicized as naturally occurring conditions.

    Other drugs come and go but these steroid sex hormones, even HRT which is basically the same although in smaller doses, get continually rehabilitated whatever creeps out every now and then. If progestins are now fingered for cancer (as I suspect they publicly will be), then estrogens will be partially rehabilitated even though it's been known for more than a century that it's carcinogenic.

    Or since, the Pill is now listed by the World Health Organization as a carcinogen, new drugs will come along which also interfere with the steroid sex hormones but will be said to be "safer" than the external steroid sex hormones themselves but will also bring with them their problems. You can't interfere with the body in such a drastic way without problems disturbing the body's chain of events, which aren't fully understood in any case, with such blunt instruments.

    And young girls at the cusp of their adult life get prescribed these powerful immunosuppressant drugs to mask acne and menstrual problems instead of having basic nutrient deficiencies addressed. And can end up on these long term and with all sorts of problems they are led to believe are naturally occurring.

    Folic acid and iron may soon be routinely prescribed with the Pill as so-called "placebos" during withdrawal bleed days. This is being introduced when it has been known for years the steroids themselves are known to dramatically reduce these nutrients and others to an extreme level and many girls and women, who have been prescribed these drugs for medical and not contraceptive reasons, have already been damaged by not having basic nutrient deficiencies treated which have caused many of their problems in the first place.

    Hopefully though many of you will recover and be able to lead lives unskewed by these drugs.

    You've definitely caught on laurafiona. The evidence is all there. It's been known since the 1890s that estrogen causes cancer. Many of the potential effects of progestins and estrogens were also predicted in animal experiments in the 1930s. Women died in the original trials of the Pill in Puerto Rico. Very few were followed up and it still was passed as fit to be prescribed. The original UK trials tested all low as well as high doses and found problems intractable but women are still left under the false impression that the problems are "only with high doses".

    There is a "revelation" every now and then in isolation but often very subtlely misdirected and leaving room for "doubt".

    And then the rehabilitation begins and we're back to square one. Or a new "wonder drug" is mooted. As Barbara Seaman has perceptively noted, the media deals in "Great Hope, No Hope" medical stories.

    All this also means that women and girls who have been damaged by these drugs are often not recognized as being damaged by the drugs and can be also deliberately libelled in medical records and sometimes further afield. Those who try to fight in the manner they see on TV and in the press find it doesn't run smoothly. They are misdirected. Those who are supposedly representing them go in strange directions and will not touch on basic problems which should be aired, narrowing the brief so that things are taken out of context.

    Perhaps people knowingly involved in all this in authority and corporations and in public services (whom we all pay and only have jobs and pensions and benefits courtesy of us all) justify to themselves that it takes a lot of skill and intelligence to outwit naive (and which of us aren't naive about such things when we start out?) women and girls who trust that what they are prescribed is for their benefit?

    Perhaps they think that trusting youngsters prescribed these drugs to mask acne or menstrual irregularities and their trusting parents are all suckers and not as clever as they are? Perhaps they think themselves very clever to be part of a large number of firms and people preying upon individual trusting women, girls and their confused fathers, husbands, partners, ex husbands and ex partners, and brothers?

    And getting money from it as well?

    Perhaps some of them are scared, are too cowardly, are indifferent, are too egotistical, are just malicious and/or would rather just take the money and ignore it retreating into deliberately blinkered lives?

    Who knows? And whatever the evidence we have, there'll always be people with vested interests to pop up and say it's sad we have such a view and try to steer people away as if everything we say is emotional. Or religious lobbies which can sometimes obscure the medical facts because it appears to be about an anti contraception, anti abortion agenda only or even secular organizations whose funding depends on these drugs while claiming to act in the benefit of women. Those who make out those who try to get out the medical facts are cranks, scaremongerers or deluded conspiracy theorists, whatever the plain as a nose on your face, once you know, medical realities.

    There will always be those who claim that those who even can show medically how their health has been damaged are poor deluded souls who cannot come to terms with their health weaknesses. It may be admitted in a few cases that it is the drugs, but always in isolation and the full implications for many women and girls on these drugs never brought out.

    It's a long one but I hope it makes sense. Of course in posting this, I do still hope against hope that things will change for the better and the reality will come out because it's natural as a human being to have that hope even if my better judgement tells me it is highly unlikely.

    But maybe I've given some people some vocabulary which will help them formulate better in words what has happened to them. I know it's often difficult to find the right words and to make your way in all this in a sure-footed manner.

    The most helpful nutrients I've found and also according to the helpful literature (so it's rung true!) are usually the vitamin Bs (a vitamin B stress complex which has added C is good for a lot of people), a separate zinc with copper tab, a separate magnesium tab, an essential fatty acid mix of Omega 3 and Omega 6s and sometimes iron.

    But this needs to be thought of in the long term - at least several months and sometimes longer. Addressing fungal/yeast overrun and allergies can also be helpful. Common allergens are wheat (which can also have mould on it), yeast, dairy products, corn, citrus fruits, coffee, tea, chocolate, alcohol, fish (especially fish with thick skin).

    If you get your iron levels tested, make sure that the doc tests your serum ferritin levels ie the body's iron store.

    The haemoglobin is the circulating iron, the iron in the blood, which, when it falls low draws on the iron store, the serum ferritin. So just measuring the haemoglobin can be misleading. And it's not just the ferritin that needs measuring but the serum ferritin, the iron store.

    Ask for a copy of the results. Should be easy to read because the patient's results are put beside the normal range of results. But it's good also to be aware that even someone with a reading which is on the low side of normal can benefit from iron.

    Also, there's a lot of very poorly absorbed, constipating iron prescribed. There are non constipating, well absorbed irons around.

    I should add that apparently it is possible to overdose on iron but many women do benefit from supplementation and I suspect overdosing is more common in men than in women but I mention it so that people can make their own investigations and are aware of this side of things.

    Iron is very important because it is needed to oxygenate the blood and therefore every process in the body. It is part of an unstable compound called haemoglobin (haemo = iron), an unstable mixture of iron and oxygen which can readily release oxygen around the body.

    So it isn't just about being breathless or having pale inner eyelids (something which is often misleading as well because steroid sex hormones can cause blood vessel overgrowth in the inside eyelids giving a ruddy, not pale, appearance to the inside eyelid but still not right).

    And remember that lack of oxygen is the ideal environment for fungus/yeast overgrowth to flourish. And, if that's not enough, that lack of iron and vitamin Bs can not only be a result of menstrual flooding but also can cause it.

    Iron is needed to control the blood vessels in the womb which in turn control blood flow. Unfortunately instead of addressing iron deficiencies many young girls and women who have this problem are immediately put on steroid sex hormones which eventually can cause a lot of problems.

    Progestins can alternately thin the womb lining but also they can again overdevelop the blood vessels which can also lead to menstrual flooding and haemorrhaging. So while iron may have developed as a problem and be a result of the menstrual flooding, for some women who didn't have previous iron problems, there may be over development of the blood vessels of the womb lining.

    If people find out they are deficient in iron, it's also important to take a zinc/copper tab because iron decreases zinc levels. Copper levels are also affected by external steroid sex hormones and can need to be balanced out.

    This may sound pretty bad and, to be realistic, it is for some. But also, realistically, others are able to recover if they make sure they keep off prescribed hormones or anything which interferes with the hormones and build up basic nutrients. Lots of women can recover health and also fertility but it can take time and any yeast infections (which are not always visible but may also be affecting the lining of womb) are dealt with.

    Masked allergies can also be a problem and can help, along with nutrient deficiencies, cause something called vascular over reactivity where the veins contract and dilate excessively. This can lead to headaches, migraines, hot and cold flushes. Allergies and nutrient deficiencies can also lead to acne.

    I'm not a medical practitioner and don't purport to be one. This is what I've found out and I appreciate that people may want to verify things for themselves.)

     
  20. Raunchy-Row

    Raunchy-Row Super Moderator Staff Member

    hi. Wow. That was a lot of info. I tried to google some of the stuff you had there, but I couldn't find all of it. If you have a link to the WHO study regarding the Pill as being carcinogenic, could you post it, please? I'm going to the doctor to discuss all of this (Am stopping the pill in just two days) and would like some print outs to take with me. Also, a link to an explaination of immunosuppression due to the pill would be helpful - thanks!
    (I did find info on immunosuppressive drugs, but they had to do with organ transplants.))

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    This is something I heard on part 2 of The Current on CBC radio. You can download it and listen to it on

    <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/2006/200604/20060425.html" target="_blank">http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/2006/200604/20060425.html</a>

    If you want to, you can order a couple of books from your local library:

    Sexual Chemistry: Understanding Our Hormones, the Pill and HRT by Dr Ellen Grant
    Reed International Books (July 1996)
    HB ISBN: 0749324856
    or
    December 31, 1996
    Methuen Publishing Ltd
    ISBN: 0749324856
    or
    (January 17, 1994)
    ISBN: 0749313633


    The Bitter Pill: How safe is the "perfect contraceptive"? by Dr Ellen Grant
    Elm Tree Books (1985)
    ISBN: 0241114276
    or
    September 19, 1986
    HarperCollins
    ISBN: 0552127981

    British Medical Journal

    <a href="http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/sear...Ellen&fmonth=Jan&sendit=Search&f" target="_blank"><a href="http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/sear...Ellen&fmonth=Jan&sendit=Search&f" target="_blank">http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/search?&t...sendit=Search&f</a> </a> year=1994&fdatedef=1+January+1994&sortspecbrief=relevance&andorexacttitle=and&andorexactfulltext=and&RESULTFORMAT=1&tdatedef=10+June+2006&hits=80

    This may take a little bit of time to come up but it does all come up.

    Click on >Full text on right hand side of titles to see see full letters. There are 258 letters. The webpage to which I have given the link has 80 of these. To move on to the next page, go to the top of the page "Results 1-80 (of 258 found)" and click on "Next 80".

    A couple of letters concerning cancer:

    <a href="http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/eletters/321/7268/1042#10702" target="_blank">http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/eletters/321/7268/1042#10702</a>

    <a href="http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/cont...pec=date&resourcetype=HWCIT,HWELTR#resp3" target="_blank"><a href="http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/cont...p;andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=Myhill" target="_blank">http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/f...fulltext=Myhill</a> &andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=date&resourcetype=HWCIT,HWELTR#resp3</a>

    All these following letters have references to immunosuppression of both external progestin and so called natural progesterone as well.

    <a href="http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/sear...ORMAT=1&tdatedef=1 July 2006&hits=80" target="_blank"><a href="http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/sear...nd&hitsbrief=25&author1=Grant, Ellen" target="_blank">http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/search?&t...=Grant, Ellen</a> &fmonth=Jan&sendit=Search&fyear=1994&fdatedef=1+January+1994&sortspecbrief=relevance&andorexacttitle=and&andorexactfulltext=and&RESULTFORMAT=1&tdatedef=1+July+2006&hits=80</a>

    <a href="http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/sear...ORMAT=1&tdatedef=1 July 2006&hits=80" target="_blank"><a href="http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/sear...nd&hitsbrief=25&author1=Grant, Ellen" target="_blank">http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/search?&t...=Grant, Ellen</a> &fmonth=Jan&sendit=Search&fyear=1994&fdatedef=1+January+1994&sortspecbrief=relevance&andorexacttitle=and&andorexactfulltext=and&RESULTFORMAT=1&tdatedef=1+July+2006&hits=80</a>

    You can also google progestin and immunosuppression.

    It's commonly said that the only problems were with the high dose Pills. But what Dr Grant emphasizes is that the initial UK trials tested all doses including those doses currently prescribed and found problems.)

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